10 Vaccines That Saved The World

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1PeaceMaker

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People rarely get measles anymore thanks in large part to the measles vaccine.

You mean because they stopped with the intentional measles parties?

Meanwhile, vaccines give people plenty of "attenuated" measles infections. It's a party in a needle.

Also, it seems you did not address the point that commercial science has the interests of business in mind, not the prosperity of humanity.
 

northwye

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See: http://www.whale.to/a/blaylock.html

The link above is to a 2004 review article by Russell Blaylock, former brain surgeon, with 55 references to research studies on the harmful effects of vaccines. Remember this review paper came out in 2004. Now in 2015 there is a larger peer review article literature on the recent science on the harmful effects of vaccines.

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/06/01/vaccines-and-brain-inflammation/

"A study on primary immunization of 239 premature infants with gestational ages of less than 35 weeks by M. Pourcyrous et al. (Journal of Pediatrics, 2007) [23] was conducted to determine the incidence of cardio-respiratory events and abnormal C-Reaction Protein (CRP) elevations associated with administration of a single vaccine or multiple vaccines simultaneously at or about two months of age. The vaccines given were: DTaP (Infanrix), Hib (ActHIB), HBV (Engerix-B), IPV (Inactivated-IPOL™), and PCV7 (Prevnar).

CRP is a standard blood test indicator for body inflammation, which in the present study would represent brain inflammation. CRP levels and cardio-respiratory manifestations were monitored for three days following immunizations in a neonatal intensive care unit sponsored by the University of Tennessee. Elevations of CRP levels occurred in 70 percent of the infants administered single vaccines and in 85 percent of those administered multiple vaccines, 43 percent of which reached abnormal levels.

As the Pourcyrous study noted,

A plausible explanation for variation in the magnitude of CRP responses to immunization may be attributed to viral versus bacterial antigenic stimulation, minor variability in the quantity of antigens in different vaccine lots, the multiple antigenic component of a vaccine, the presence and the quantity of aluminum adjuvant, genetic polymorphism or to decrease immunologic responses in some preterm infants. [24]

Overall, 16 percent of infants had potentially lethal vaccine-associated cardio-respiratory events with episodes of apnea (cessation of breathing) and/or bradycardia (abnormal slowing of the pulse). Intraventricular (brain) hemorrhages occurred in 17 percent of those receiving single vaccines and in 24 percent of those receiving multiple vaccines."

Vaccines are produced and promoted by the giant pharmaceutical corporations and promoted by doctors, and the sale of vaccines is a huge part of the medical industry.

And - just as some antibiotics have worked to treat some infectious diseases, and then this success for some infectious diseases is used as propaganda to promote ineffective and sometimes harmful medical practices, so the 19th century science on vaccination and claimed success in preventing some infectious diseases is used as propaganda to promote all vaccines.

In law there is a standard statement - "assumes evidence not in view." In order to show that vaccines prevent disease sophisticated research designs need to be carried out to control for "confounding" variables, such as better hygeine at the time vaccines were thought to be successful in preventing some infectious diseases in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Medical doctors are not trained in science or in the design and analysis of research, though a very few become interested and are able to learn that skill.

Remember that doctors may claim that their drugs are the reason why people got over infectious diseases when in fact the body is able to heal itself. The problem is that the procedures of medical doctors in relying only on drugs and surgery often rule out that which does improve the immune system and heal the body - certain nutrients, stress reduction, a positive attitude, sleep and exercise.

There is a body of hard science developing in the last decade or so which has relevance to how to help the body heal itself.

What might be called "hard science" of human genetics in recent years dealing with the factors determining Chromosome Telomere Length, theoretically an indicator of lifespan. Prescription drugs and surgery - generally - as factors in Telemere length is not part of the science of Telemere Length determination. Elizabeth Blackburn was awarded the 2009 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, sharing it with Carol W. Greider and Jack W. Szostak for their pioneering work on factors contributing to Telemere Length.

The issue of whether vaccines, as they now exist, are able to increase the health of people, or are more harmful than helpful in promoting health is an interesting and important part of the issue of whether there is real evidence or not for the health benefits of allopathic medicine. Would not the old legal argument "assumes facts not in evidence" apply to the claim that vaccines now in 2015 as the vaccines exist actually improve the overall health of a community?
 

northwye

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see: http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/March-2011/No-Pharma-Liability--No-Vaccine-Mandates-.aspx

"On February 22, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court shielded drug companies from all liability for harm caused by vaccines mandated by government when companies could have made a safer vaccine. 1

From now on, drug companies selling vaccines in America will not be held accountable by a jury of our peers in a court of law if those vaccines brain damage us but could have been made less toxic. 2

If you get paralyzed by a flu shot or your child has a serious reaction to a vaccine required for school and becomes learning disabled, epileptic, autistic, asthmatic, diabetic or mentally retarded, you are on your own. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16

From now on – unless we stand up and draw the line on vaccine mandates - the government can legally use police powers to force every American to get hundreds of vaccinations or be punished while those, who are hurt by vaccination, can be more easily swept under the rug and left to fend for themselves. 17, 18, 19&, 20

Big Pharma Blackmailed Congress in 1982

To understand how this happened, we have to turn the clock back to 1982. That is when four big drug companies (Merck, Wyeth, Lederle, Connaught) blackmailed Congress by threatening to stop selling vaccines in America unless a law was passed giving them complete immunity from prosecution. 21

The pharmaceutical industry knew they were in big trouble because the old, crude whooping cough vaccine in the DPT shot was causing brain inflammation and death in many children; 22 the live oral polio vaccine was crippling children and adults with vaccine strain polio; 23 and Americans were filing lawsuits to hold drug companies responsible for the safety of their products. "

see: http://www.nvic.org/injury-compensation.aspx

" National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which acknowledged that vaccine injuries and deaths are real and that the vaccine injured and their families should be financially supported and that vaccine safety protections were needed in the mass vaccination system.

The law preserved the right for vaccine injured persons to bring a lawsuit in the court system if federal compensation is denied or is not sufficient. By 2010, the U.S. Court of Claims had awarded nearly $2 billion dollars to vaccine victims for their catastrophic vaccine injuries, although two out of three applicants have been denied compensation."

If a person is injured by vaccines he or she cannot sue the vaccine makers - the giant pharmaceutical corporations. And as it says above about two out of three applicants are denied compensation for vaccine injures by the vaccine court. Apparently many people don't know the vaccine court exists.
 

Omniskeptical

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Gee I was thinking the same thing, except about denialists like elohiym and yourself. No amount of data will sway you. You always have some creative dodge for whatever it is.

Vaccines have to be bad, they can't have eradicated any disease, it's all a myth . . . blah blah blah.

The rest of us in not crazy land will continue vaccinating our children and unvaccinated people need to stay away from the rest of society.
What to do, What to do? I suggest you take more of them, why as you believe in them. Thou'll infect thyself, because there is no such thing as acquired immunity.
 

Omniskeptical

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People rarely get measles anymore thanks in large part to the measles vaccine.
Whatever it was, it is still around, and has a different. Kind of like not giving the polio diagnosis, because one has had the vaccination. I don't remember what they called it.

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I have made the personal choice to not bother with flu vaccinations because I'm a relatively healthy middle-aged man so the flu isn't a life-threatening illness for me. I can't remember the last time I got the flu anyhow. If I were elderly or compromised in some way, I might think differently about it.
LOL, I wouldn't want flu germs forced upon me, when I become elderly.
 

resodko

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People rarely get measles anymore thanks in large part to the measles vaccine.



I have made the personal choice to not bother with flu vaccinations because I'm a relatively healthy middle-aged man so the flu isn't a life-threatening illness for me. I can't remember the last time I got the flu anyhow. If I were elderly or compromised in some way, I might think differently about it.



I get it every year because I work with the weak, sick and elderly – I get it to protect myself, yes, but much more importantly, to protect those who are at increased risk
 

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Novavax’s new Ebola vaccine candidate has proved to assist healthy people develop an immune response in an early trial against the almost lethal virus. The vaccine is a Ebola virus glycoprotein (GP) recombinant nanoparticle. It targets a particular Ebola strain which is responsible for most of the Ebola cases in West Africa. According to the company’s presentation on its website, the trial of the vaccine was started in started in early February in Australia. The dose-escalation trial of the vaccine was tried on 230 healthy adults, ranging from 18 to 49 years, with and without the adjuvant. “These data, together with two positive challenge studies in non-human primates, suggest that the Ebola GP Vaccine would be protective in humans,” said Dr. Greg Glenn, Novavax’s research chief, in a statement.

Link: http://futurism.com/links/view/ebola-vaccine-shows-positive-human-immune-response/?noheader=true
 

CabinetMaker

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Stop perpetuating the smallpox vaccine myth. See post #7 on this thread.

You cannot wipe out any diseases that you are currently being vaccinated for. Pick one disease and vaccine and I will prove you cannot wipe it out with vaccination according to scientific evidence.
Polio
 

CabinetMaker

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You have no proof. It's just smoke and mirrors.

Rabies will not be wiped out by the rabies vaccine. You can still get rabies. It's an unavoidably unsafe vaccine. Do you believe rabies vaccination is necessary? Yes or no.
If you live in an area where there is rabies present, yes, it is a prudent vaccination.
 

elohiym

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I have made the personal choice to not bother with flu vaccinations because I'm a relatively healthy middle-aged man so the flu isn't a life-threatening illness for me. I can't remember the last time I got the flu anyhow. If I were elderly or compromised in some way, I might think differently about it.
I get it every year because I work with the weak, sick and elderly – I get it to protect myself, yes, but much more importantly, to protect those who are at increased risk

Are you going to get the flu vaccine to protect others like poster resodko or remain a danger to society and a hypocrite?
 

CabinetMaker

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This doesn't actually prove anything as it is a group with predetermined conclusion that they are out to sell:

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The International Medical Council on Vaccination is an association of medical doctors, registered nurses and other qualified medical professionals whose purpose is to counter the messages asserted by pharmaceutical companies, the government and medical agencies that vaccines are safe, effective and harmless. Our conclusions have been reached individually by each member of the Council, after thousands of hours of personal research, study and observation.

- See more at: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/about/#sthash.nxr4556k.dpuf


You link directly to an opinion piece, not a rigorous, peer reviewed study. Opinion versus science. I prefer to see the science.
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/about/#sthash.nxr4556k.dpuf
 

elohiym

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This doesn't actually prove anything ...

Sure it does.

The International Medical Council on Vaccination is an association of medical doctors, registered nurses and other qualified medical professionals ...

So people who are familiar with the research and have field experience.

You link directly to an opinion piece, not a rigorous, peer reviewed study. Opinion versus science. I prefer to see the science.

Their opinions are based on evidence. You were shown research evidence on other threads; this isn't the first time you and I have gone round on this.
 
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