elohiym
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The tuberculosis vaccine is not on the U.S. vaccination schedule. Why did you receive it?
Have you received the rabies and smallpox vaccines?
Why? The flu kills more people than measles, right?
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The tuberculosis vaccine is not on the U.S. vaccination schedule. Why did you receive it?
Have you received the rabies and smallpox vaccines?
Why? The flu kills more people than measles, right?
elohiym
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elohiym
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"Denialist?" What am I denying?
What data have you presented? None. I've presented much on this thread that is being ignored just like you did.
Provide an example. You can't.
You've never actually studied the subject, that's obvious.
You will continue to suffer the consequences.
See how crazy you are? You want to quarantine people who aren't infected because you are afraid your vaccines will not work for you.
elohiym
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You're starting to get my point? Great!
I was given the TB vaccine in the USN.
I was born in 1968 and smallpox vaccination was routine until 1972 in the USA, so maybe. Rabies yes, although I am sans my 10 year booster.
I rarely get colds, much less the flu, so for myself, I don't see much point in bothering with the flu vaccine.
elohiym
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Ah, military. Makes sense.
Anyway, we don't generally vaccinate against any of those diseases in the U.S. and people in the U.S. are still at risk for TB and rabies.
People rarely get measles but you probably think being proactive with the vaccine is a good thing, right? Why one but not the other?
elohiym
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Have you watched this video yet?
After watching that, you might feel the same way about measles vaccine as you do about the flu vaccine.
Have you watched this video yet?
| Dr Tetyana Obukhanych - Do vaccines give you immunity? | |
After watching that, you might feel the same way about measles vaccine as you do about the flu vaccine.
That doesn't say I don't gave faith. Tell us, have you moved any mountains lately?
elohiym
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It implies, at least, you don't have the measure of faith you were addressing.
I told my wife earlier that you would respond exactly as you just did, by trying to tempt me as the devil tempted Christ. You think I have to move a mountain to prove I have the faith the size of a tiny mustard seed. Do I have to turn stones into bread to prove I am the son of God, too? :chuckle:
I really don't have time to watch a nearly 2-hour video. Post a clip of 10 minutes or less and I'll make time to watch that.
Here's a link regarding Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych:
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/why-does-this-immunologist-reject-vaccinations/
elohiym
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Consider carefully this passage regarding the curse of disobedience from Deuteronomy 28:15 et seq:
Questions:
1. If you become infected with a deadly virus, is it possible that God wants you infected?
2. If yes, should you vaccinate to prevent God's will in that case?
3. Is it possible that God has nothing to do with some infections that people get today?
Consider carefully this passage regarding the curse of disobedience from Deuteronomy 28:15 et seq:
20 "The LORD will send upon you curses, confusion, and rebuke, in all you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken Me.
21 "The LORD will make the pestilence cling to you until He has consumed you from the land where you are entering to possess it.
22 "The LORD will smite you with consumption and with fever and with inflammation and with fiery heat and with the sword and with blight and with mildew, and they will pursue you until you perish.
21 "The LORD will make the pestilence cling to you until He has consumed you from the land where you are entering to possess it.
22 "The LORD will smite you with consumption and with fever and with inflammation and with fiery heat and with the sword and with blight and with mildew, and they will pursue you until you perish.
Questions:
1. If you become infected with a deadly virus, is it possible that God wants you infected?
2. If yes, should you vaccinate to prevent God's will in that case?
3. Is it possible that God has nothing to do with some infections that people get today?
elohiym
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Why not just watch the first ten minutes instead of make me find a clip under ten minutes? :idunno:
It's an obvious hatchet job, and poorly done. Harriet Hall's article should be criticized and the flaws in her argument pointed out, whoever she is (couldn't find a bio). Regardless, Dr. Obukhanych's presentation is exclusively about the measles virus.
You thought I had to have that much faith to be a Christian. Do you or don't you have o have that much faith? If you don't turn a few stones into bread from time to time, how do you know you have enough faith to be saved?
By the way, I wasn't tempting you, I asked you a simple question based on Jesus's teachings.
Subjective speculations are the only answers to these questions. One could answer both ways and cite Bible passages both ways.
Here's why:
TB: http://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/vaccines/default.htm
Rabies: http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/exposure/
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elohiym
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Proves my point. They are obviously unnecessary vaccines, yet a person can still contract rabies and tuberculosis in the U.S. But who cares, right?
I noticed you dodged my question in response to you avoiding the flu vaccine, so I'll ask it again: People rarely get measles but you probably think being proactive with the vaccine is a good thing, right? Why use one (measles vaccine) but not the other (flu vaccine)?
elohiym
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People rarely get measles anymore thanks in large part to the measles vaccine.
I have made the personal choice to not bother with flu vaccinations because I'm a relatively healthy middle-aged man so the flu isn't a life-threatening illness for me. I can't remember the last time I got the flu anyhow. If I were elderly or compromised in some way, I might think differently about it.
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