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expos4ever

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Leftist solution to poverty worldwide: Rob from the rich and give to the poor, thus making everyone poor. Leftists may never be able to figure out there is no solution to the problem of poverty.

Matthew 26:11
For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
What utter tripe - you are a painful embarrassment to the reputation of the Church.

Here is what is so pernicious about fundamentalism - it gives people a rationalization for their sin.

Problem: Don't like what science says?
Solution: Adopt an absurdly simplistic, cartoonish world-view that casts science as a tool of Satan.

Problem: Don't want to participate in the clear gospel imperative to help the poor?
Solution: Cherry-pick a verse that merely acknowledges the sad fact that there will always be poor and mangle it into the absurd implication that we are therefore not compelled to help them.

American evangelicalism has earned its comic reputation.
 

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You do realize that the ToE isn't about the actual origin of life itself, right?
Are you reading from the ToE playbook?
It isn't vague in the slightest, not if you're familiar with it and of course there's evidence for it.
I've quite familiar with the topic.
If there wasn't it wouldn't have become a theory.
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I thought you said you were familiar as to how theories become formulated in science?
I am.
 

Eric h

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What is someone is rich by good, honest hard work?
The average wage for a Walmart worker is around $13 per hour. I can imagine they would have to work hard to bring up a family on those wages.

The Walton family who own Walmart are said to be worth $150 Billion. Do they work a thousand times harder than their employees, maybe ten thousand times harder than their employees. How do they justify taking such wealth from them?

The poor are poor because they can be exploited.
 

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The average wage for a Walmart worker is around $13 per hour. I can imagine they would have to work hard to bring up a family on those wages.
Completely irrelevant to my question.
The Walton family who own Walmart are said to be worth $150 Billion. Do they work a thousand times harder than their employees, maybe ten thousand times harder than their employees.
Yes, they actually do.... they CREATED a HUGE and thriving business that allows other people to get paid to work there. The worker is under no obligation to work there and the Walton family is not forcing them to work there or accept that level of pay.
How do they justify taking such wealth from them?
They take no wealth from them. That's just a silly idea.
The poor are poor because they can be exploited.
Not necessarily.
 

Arthur Brain

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Are you reading from the ToE playbook?

I've quite familiar with the topic.

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I am.
No, I'm simply telling you what you should already know. The ToE has nothing to do with the actual origin of life itself, the clues in the word 'evolution'. If you really are familiar you wouldn't have made such a basic mistake.
 

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No, I'm simply telling you what you should already know. The ToE has nothing to do with the actual origin of life itself, the clues in the word 'evolution'. If you really are familiar you wouldn't have made such a basic mistake.
I was including the origin as life has to start before it can "evolve". But you're really, really smart... so you know that.

Atheists have no choice but to have an alternate creation story. That you believe their version instead of God's version, that's a shame on you.
 

Arthur Brain

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I was including the origin as life has to start before it can "evolve". But you're really, really smart... so you know that.

Atheists have no choice but to have an alternate creation story. That you believe their version instead of God's version, that's a shame on you.
Irrelevant. The ToE has nothing to do with the actual origin of life and you should have known that. It's a basic error that's been addressed multiple times on here.

Your latter is patently absurd and shame on you for either being so woefully uninformed on the matter or engaging in wilful dishonesty. Atheism is entirely irrelevant to the topic of evolution.
 

marke

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Do you know what a 'theory' actually is in science?
Of course I know what theories are. Evolution and creation are both theories and both promote ideas about life on earth. The problem with atheists, however, is that they have created an atheistic definition of 'scientific theory' which excluded any possibility of God. That is not a scientific theory, it is a theological explanation of life from a strictly atheistic viewpoint.
 

marke

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It's not "my theory", it's one that's established globally in science. You say you know how the term theory applies where it comes to such. If that's the case then you'll know just how much evidence it requires in order for it to come about. I've no interest in any of the bizarre stuff you want to accuse me of. Alate & Barb are believers and they showed that there's no need for cognitive dissonance in accepting evolution and having faith.

Of course ToE doesn't run contrary to 'scientific fact', that's just a laughably silly thing to say.
Evolution is a biased assumption based upon atheistic theology and not real science.
 

marke

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If you think that the ToE is "vague" then the ignorance is once again, all yours. I'm not on the "side" of anything but there's no fantasy about it.
There is no doubt rebels against God have amassed volumes of deceptive "carefully mined evidence, secular scientific interpretations, assumptions, secular conclusions and so forth in weak support of the false science of evolution, but neither God nor Bible-believing Christians are fooled by that deceptive atheistic nonsense.
 

marke

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No, evolution is a completely separate issue from the origin of life itself.
Exactly. Evolution cannot explain the origin of life. Neither natural selection, mother nature, happenstance, nor blind luck can create life - only God can perform the miracle of the origin of life.
 

marke

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Agreed, and this is a just reason to tax the rich in a way that could benefit the poor.


Most people in power exploit the poor, the dems, communists, fascists and even republicans.
Maybe you can post some details about specific laws democrats have passed in the last 40 years which have shown their commitment to raise taxes on the rich while cutting taxes on the poor. I don't think anyone can produce such evidence.
 

Eric h

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they CREATED a HUGE and thriving business that allows other people to get paid to work there.
And when they die, they will take nothing with them. Like the parable of the rich man and Lazarus they will have to stand before God. The rich man is told you have had your reward already.
 

Arthur Brain

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Exactly. Evolution cannot explain the origin of life. Neither natural selection, mother nature, happenstance, nor blind luck can create life - only God can perform the miracle of the origin of life.
Well of course it can't. Evolution has nothing to do with how life originated. How many times does this have to be pointed out?
 

marke

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And when they die, they will take nothing with them. Like the parable of the rich man and Lazarus they will have to stand before God. The rich man is told you have had your reward already.
Leftist rebels against God are famous for telling people what is going to happen to them after they die.
 
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