ECT FAITH ALONE: DID JESUS TEACH IT?

[heir]

If you disagree, then go ahead and post your proof. Let's have it.

The Religious (but lost) Catholic Organization does not preach salvation by grace through the faith and finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. To say they do is a lie.

Do Catholics believe one can be saved:

without water baptism?
without turning from sins?
without keeping the commandments?
without overcoming?
without church attendance?

Does the Catholic church teach that trusting the Lord believing something is enough for salvation?

 

[Cruciform]

The Religious (but lost) Catholic Organization...

Straw Man Fallacy. Try again.

...does not preach salvation by grace through the faith and finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. To say they do is a lie.

Proof, please.

Do Catholics believe one can be saved:

without water baptism?
without turning from sins?
without keeping the commandments?
without overcoming?
without church attendance?

Does the Catholic church teach that trusting the Lord believing something is enough for salvation?

Are you talking about initial justification, or are you referring to overall salvation? They're not the same thing. Which one are you asking about?



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
+T+

 

[heir]

Are you talking about initial justification, or are you referring to overall salvation? They're not the same thing. Which one are you asking about?



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
+T+

The questions are straightforward. Answer them.

 

[Cruciform]

The questions are straightforward. Answer them.

Yes, my question is straightforward. Answer it:

"Are you talking about initial justification, or are you referring to overall salvation? They're not the same thing. Which one are you asking about?"​

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Ad Hominem Fallacy. Try again. :yawn:

Back to Post #13 above.

Nah. I got my point across.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If you disagree, then go ahead and post your proof. Let's have it.

How many times a week do you complain to the Archdiocese of Rome?

 

[Cruciform]

Nah. I got my point across.

Your point, then, must have been that you often resort to logical fallacies, and so don't know how to think properly. Message received. :thumb:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I asked you a question. Why are you deliberately and directly spamming this thread?

If you believe that to be the truth, notify the Woodshed, pronto.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Your point, then, must have been that you often resort to logical fallacies, and so don't know how to think properly. Message received. :thumb:

Will you be at mass tomorrow?

 

[Cruciform]

How many times a week do you complain to the Archdiocese of Rome?

Already answered here.

 

[Interplanner]

'The work of God is to believe on Him whom He sent.' Jn 6. That is one of the clearest.

 

[TulipBee]

Then neither do you.

If you don't have anything that engages with the actual content of the OP, then don't post at all. You're off-topic.

You just admitted you don't listen to Jesus.

Catholicism believes faith and works for redemption.
Protestantism reckons that faith alone suffice.

Some Baptist Churches is just Roman Catholicism and
Greek Orthodoxy in disguise. Salvation is by
faith alone. Not by works.

 

[Traditio]

You just admitted you don't listen to Jesus.

He listens to Jesus every time he goes to mass. Pretty much literally.

 

[Cross Reference]

He listens to Jesus every time he goes to mass. Pretty much literally.

That isn't Jesus sitting on his shoulder whispering sweet nothings in his ear..

 

[heir]

Yes, my question is straightforward. Answer it:

"Are you talking about initial justification, or are you referring to overall salvation? They're not the same thing. Which one are you asking about?"​

Do Catholics believe one can be saved:

without water baptism?
without turning from sins?
without keeping the commandments?
without overcoming?
without church attendance?

Does the Catholic church teach that trusting the Lord believing something is enough for salvation?

Answer the questions.

 

[heir]

Are you talking about initial justification.

You're either justified or you aren't!

(And is it any wonder why some of us saw godrulz as a closet catholic?)

 

[heir]

Still waiting...

Do Catholics believe one can be saved:

without water baptism?
without turning from sins?
without keeping the commandments?
without overcoming?
without church attendance?

Does the Catholic church teach that trusting the Lord believing something is enough for salvation?

Answer the questions.

 

[Cruciform]

You just admitted you don't listen to Jesus.

No, only that if that were so, then it would also be so for you.

 

[Cruciform]

Answer the questions.

Post #104

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Already answered here.

Complain to your Priest.