oatmeal
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That can be helpful if the translators rightly divided the word of truth.
The lord Jesus Christ is not the Lord God
The lord Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of the Lord God.
Who will answer my questions?
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That can be helpful if the translators rightly divided the word of truth.
The lord Jesus Christ is not the Lord God
The lord Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of the Lord God.
glorydaz
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Too much trouble to actually look at the context. How hard is it to look at the verse which speaks of the judges being called gods because they were supposed to be speaking on God's behalf? But, no, can't take the time away from running their mouths to actually read what is written. :nono:
glorydaz
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It's half the story, but that's good enough for you, isn't it pops?
Sort of odd, though, considering ...all things were created by and for the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col. 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Isaiah tells us GOD THE LORD did that, but you can just ignore that, too, huh?
Isaiah 42: Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
A half truth is a full lie, and that's what you're preaching, Pops.
oatmeal
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Therefore, Jesus Christ was called god s well, but as the judges are not God, Jesus is not God
:nono:
oatmeal
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It's half the story, but that's good enough for you, isn't it pops?
Sort of odd, though, considering ...all things were created by and for the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col. 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Isaiah tells us GOD THE LORD did that, but you can just ignore that, too, huh?
Isaiah 42: Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
A half truth is a full lie, and that's what you're preaching, Pops.
That is right, you missed half the truth. Ephesians 3:9 KJV
"by Jesus Christ" is not in the texts.
Some versions recognize that and do not give those words.
ASV and to make all men see what is the dispensation of the mystery which for ages hath been hid in God who created all things;
AMP and to make plain [to everyone] the plan of the mystery [regarding the uniting of believing Jews and Gentiles into one body] which [until now] was kept hidden through the ages in [the mind of] God who created all things.
God created all things.
Thus Colossians 1:16 must be understood as "for him were created all things"
God truly prepared for the birth and life and success of His son.
oatmeal
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Why so sad?
Why not rejoice at the truth?
Jesus Christ is not God, Jesus Christ is a man who loved, believed and obeyed God!
Look what he accomplished.
Seems most of Christianity is not aware of the potential God has endued Christians with
John 14:12
glorydaz
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That sentence doesn't even make sense. Try again.
glorydaz
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It's really sad the lengths men will go to in order to deny their Lord and God. :nono:
Well, none should wonder why they are perishing.
glorydaz
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And what would those greater works be?
Tehmill
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You do not believe in Him, you believe in a different Christ. You refuse to honour Him even as the Father is honoured.
popsthebuilder
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(so how is it that you justifiably accuse me of only speaking half truth and somehow lie based on this? Don't be mad at me for what is plainly stated and doesn't need to be added to)It's half the story, but that's good enough for you, isn't it pops?
Sort of odd, though, considering ...all things were created by and for the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col. 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Isaiah tells us GOD THE LORD did that, but you can just ignore that, too, huh?
Isaiah 42: Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
A half truth is a full lie, and that's what you're preaching, Pops.
17. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21. Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22. And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23. Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Tehmill
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"Who do men say that I am?" how people answer this question [never mind Oaties foolishness] will decide who is in the church or outside. To the scripture ignorant Oaties Peter did not say "Thou art God" but to us who rely on what the Father reveals, rather than what flesh and blood reveals, he did.
marhig
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Yes that says it all
marhig
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Well maybe you can actually read what is written when Jesus says that the father is the only true God and that he is his God, whilst he is in the flesh and when he is back with the father.
Verses you just seem to blindly skip past because they don't agree with your false trinitarian doctrine!
marhig
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Those that are perishing are not those who don't believe that Jesus is God, but rather those who think that they are eternally saved regardless of what they do and they think that they can still wilfully sin and still be saved.
The cross of Christ is foolishness to them, because it's a cross that they are not willing to bare and partake in the sufferings, they don't believe that they are to take up their cross and deny themselves, even though Jesus said that those who are not willing to do this are not worthy of him. They love their flesh more than they love God and have chosen a church that suits their needs.
Those who truly follow Jesus live by the will of God, not their flesh, and follow his teachings, and turn from this world of sin and flesh.
glorydaz
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Nothing to see here. :down:
It's these works people who preach another Gospel and are to be cursed.
glorydaz
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You can read all day long, and still not hear. :down:
This verse is ignored by them; it makes a big difference between His Father and Jesus.
This is main ingredient of His followers.