nikolai_42
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When was man created?
ECT Was Jesus God. . . .
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When was man created?
oatmeal
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You don't know?
Bethlehem (House of Bread).
However, Jesus said, "After this manner therefore pray ye, 'Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.'"
These men were not born again but they had the same spiritual Father as Jesus.
Israel was God's firstborn.
nikolai_42
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Which is exactly the sort of answer the countless disciples that eventually turned away from Him gave.
The question goes to where He comes from and being able to know that.
nikolai_42
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Many of Israel drank from the Spiritual Rock of Christ but many also did not make it into the Promised Land. That line of thinking doesn't change the import of being born again and its impact on this realm.
nikolai_42
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Taking it one step at a time.
What? Are you saying he came from Nazareth?
Jedidiah
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John 3:16 suggests otherwise.
oatmeal
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Where did John the Baptist come from?
John 1:6
He was sent from God.
Where was God?
nikolai_42
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And that's the sort of answer given by those that never even showed a hint of believing in Him.
nikolai_42
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Semantics. That doesn't compare with where Jesus came from :
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Matthew 11:11
And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, "Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn." (Exodus 4:22)
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus whom ye delivered up and denied him in the presence of Pilate when he was determined to let him go. (Acts 3:13)
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus whom ye delivered up and denied him in the presence of Pilate when he was determined to let him go. (Acts 3:13)
The God of Israel.
oatmeal
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Who are you addressing?
oatmeal
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You don't know where John came from?
I gave you the answer.
John 1:6
He was sent from God.
Jedidiah
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I don't know if you're arguing or not, and if you are, bearing in mind John 3:16, you just corrected yourself in your own post.
"...His only begotten Son..."
"...His only begotten Son..."
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nikolai_42
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The leaders of Israel agreed, in large part, where the prophets came from. They agreed that Elijah was to come and restore all things. All the prophets were sent from God. And yet, to be said the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than any prophet? John said he wasn't worthy to untie the thong of Jesus' sandal. So what does that make Him?
The leaders could even agree (sometimes....or to some degree) that John was from God. But unless you want to say Christ was not unique then where He was from is a much heavier question than simply who sent Him.
