This habitual liar, spams this copy-n'paste to everyone, who disagrees with his satanic doctrine of demons.
Oh, yes:
Add the above, to this deceiver's other bluster, deceit:
Robert's Gospel According to the Apostle Paul
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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This habitual liar, spams this copy-n'paste to everyone, who disagrees with his satanic doctrine of demons.
Oh, yes:
Add the above, to this deceiver's other bluster, deceit:
Just because an opposing argument is fearfully compelling does not make it a scary straw filled scarecrow...
Your view is EXACTLY a jewish fable as they attempted to slander and accused both Stephen and later Paul of preaching Moses’customs were abolished Yahushua...by the cross...at the cross...
This lie, your view, was FALSE WITNESS which Paul defended himself of multiple times even taking a vow proving he remained zealous for the Law...
If he taught or lived otherwise the witness would be true...
as it was no jew was able to produce witness or evidence (like one of his letters) to show your view...christendom’s...even those that are MAD...to show Paul taught the OT is no longer binding
You don't have the slightest idea of what the Gospel is. The reason being is that you are spiritually dead.
Right Divider
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Instead of making false accusations, why don't you address what he SAID instead?
musterion
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You tell all of us, Pate, why the Lord Jesus Christ died. GO AHEAD, Pate.
Tell us that he died for your sins/sin debt, when there is no holy law of God, according to you, by which sins are defined.
Go ahead.
I will pick your perverted, alleged "the Gospel" apart, by your own words, satanic assertions.
His mind has melted down.
Pate: The law is abolished for some, but then it becomes "un abolished" for others.The law was abolished at the cross, but is resurrected,"un abolished after the cross.
Demonic "logic."
musterion
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I asked him that about a year ago: If Christ's perfect walk under the Law is credited to the believer (it's so important that it's even needed as an article of saving faith, according to Pate), what's the point of the Cross?
Where there's no broken law, there's no offense. So vicarious lawkeeping ALONE would undo all our lawbreaking, erasing the debt of sin for all who believe, making the Cross pointless. The work of our salvation would have been done by His LIFE, not His death. Pate tries to say "well, it's both" but it won't work. You wouldn't NEED both.
He never answered that question and he won't answer you now. Because he's an enemy of the Cross but can't come out and say it.
Where there's no broken law, there's no offense. So vicarious lawkeeping ALONE would undo all our lawbreaking, erasing the debt of sin for all who believe, making the Cross pointless. The work of our salvation would have been done by His LIFE, not His death. Pate tries to say "well, it's both" but it won't work. You wouldn't NEED both.
He never answered that question and he won't answer you now. Because he's an enemy of the Cross but can't come out and say it.
Pate: If the law exists, you follow it, and are under it, much like if the law of foreign countries exists, you are under those laws.
=psycho
Exactamundo.
Careful, musty-he will now put you under his "there is no evidence you have the Holy Spirit" spam...
musterion
Well-known member
Yeah, Mormons say that all the time. Pate is closer to a Mormon than a Bible believer, and is just as much of a Norman. "Does...not...compute...BZZZT!"
glorydaz
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glorydaz
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Rosenritter does the exact same thing. It's very convenient. It's called being two-faced. :chew:
glorydaz
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You see the word "ministers" there....like the "ministration of death"? 2 Corinthians 3:7
The Law's role has changed...the Law, itself, has not been abolished.
The Law was our Tutor. Now we are no longer under the Tutor's administration, but the Spirit's.
We've graduated, but school is still in session.
Derf
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glorydaz
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:chuckle:
It does not mean the words are no longer there. It means that seeing the words a particular way keeps one from living by the Spirit as we ought to.
Phew that is a relief...
Was beginning to think that the learning of 2+2=4 under a tutor didnt matter once we graduated to advance levels...or it was changed to some other formula by the Spirit...I mean it remains 2+2=4 and for us to use right?
Yeah speaking of straw...one drowning will grab at them...and seek to drag others down with them...
Typical but still unnecessary...not even that clever either...pity
The ego and self righteousness thingy was redundant too...I mean it’s a innernutz forum...lighten up...mmmmmkay Rosenritter?
You dont have to attack messengers and stuff like that...or PM me about others here...
But if ya gotta...at least be more clever...yes please be at least that...
Thanks...
and Happy Sabbath before the “treason to His seasons” TOL...
Rosenritter
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So specific scriptures that tell us the Ten Commandments were abolished, the ordinances were nailed to the cross, the old covenant is obsolete and replaced.... aren't good enough for you. You don't understand the meaning of "Love God" and "Love thy neighbor" to understand why you separate laws aren't needed against idolatry and murder, but you do have nonsense smack talk. Not worth engaging. Ignore list.