Rape victims

[elohiym]

According to the humanists, people do not deserve any punishment for bad behavior. According to God they do. Clearly, the humanists think they get to make the rules. It's why they can never agree. :chuckle:

God's law called for equal retribution, an eye-for-an-eye. In that context, only a rapist could deserve being raped. What sort of "bad behavior" do you think a woman deserves to be raped for? Be specific.

 

[Arthur Brain]

According to the humanists, people do not deserve any punishment for bad behavior. According to God they do. Clearly, the humanists think they get to make the rules. It's why they can never agree. :chuckle:

Hmm, because of course Christians always agree on everything verbatim. :AMR:

What most people can agree on is that nobody deserves to be raped, or make light thereof. Must be a 'liberal' thing eh?

lain:

 

[glorydaz]

God's law called for equal retribution, an eye-for-an-eye. In that context, only a rapist could deserve being raped. What sort of "bad behavior" do you think a woman deserves to be raped for? Be specific.

Equal retribution does not mean rapists should be raped. If that was true, people wouldn't have been stoned to death unless they had stoned someone to death.

Again, it isn't what I think should happen to anyone. I am not God....what God allows is what's right. One thing I do know.. not every rape victim is without fault, and it isn't man's place to say the act of rape takes away that fault....or she does not deserve what happens to her. Which is basically what's being insisted upon.

 

[elohiym]

That you'd be honest enough to recognize their stance. They've plainly said that certain people deserve to be raped, no if ands or buts.

But wait! there's more ...

We are taught (in rape prevention lectures) that No Means No!

Because they want you to stop when you hear the word instead of thinking ....

No sometimes also means Yes

Provide an example.

 

[glorydaz]

Hmm, because of course Christians always agree on everything verbatim. :AMR:

What most people can agree on is that nobody deserves to be raped, or make light thereof. Must be a 'liberal' thing eh?

lain:

I don't care how many people agree. Right and wrong does not depend on what people agree on. Rape is wrong. Stripping for a bunch of men is wrong. Being responsible for our own behavior demands punishment for wrong.....unless mercy is given. God's call not mine...or yours, no matter how much we'd like to be the decider of such things.

 

[patrick jane]

Nobody answered the scenario where the girl does the stripping for a living. Does she then deserve a frat party rape fest ?

 

[Arthur Brain]

I don't care how many people agree. Right and wrong does not depend on what people agree on. Rape is wrong. Stripping for a bunch of men is wrong. Being responsible for our own behavior demands punishment for wrong.....unless mercy is given. God's call not mine...or yours, no matter how much we'd like to be the decider of such things.

Saying that people in certain circumstances deserve to be raped is wrong. I already know you don't care...

 

[elohiym]

Equal retribution does not mean rapists should be raped.

Then you really have no justification from God's law to claim some people deserve to be raped, right?

One thing I do know.. not every rape victim is without fault...

Every rape victim is without fault because there is nothing a person can do that justifies being raped, not even asking to be raped.

... and it isn't man's place to say the act of rape takes away that fault...

It isn't anyone's place to say the alleged faults of a victim make a rape deserved because rape is never deserved, especially if it's not deserved as punishment for rape under God's law of equal retribution.

...or she does not deserve what happens to her. Which is basically what's being insisted upon.

Yes! That is what is being insisted upon because rape is never deserved. Can you disprove the claim that rape is never deserved?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Nobody answered the scenario where the girl does the stripping for a living. Does she then deserve a frat party rape fest ?

Yep, and tarred and feathered into the bargain, and then possibly some further "shame" that the righteous hordes here could inflict. Absolutely sickening.

 

[elohiym]

Rape is wrong.

Rape is a violent crime, equivalent to murder in God's eyes.

Stripping for a bunch of men is wrong.

Unlike rape, stripping is legal and doesn't imply the woman is engaging in prostitution or offering free sex. Why do you believe strippers (doing something legal and non-violent) deserve to be raped (subject to something illegal and violent)?

Being responsible for our own behavior demands punishment for wrong.....unless mercy is given. God's call not mine...or yours, no matter how much we'd like to be the decider of such things.

What should be the punishment for stripping?

 

[glorydaz]

Then you really have no justification from God's law to claim some people deserve to be raped, right?



Every rape victim is without fault because there is nothing a person can do that justifies being raped, not even asking to be raped.



It isn't anyone's place to say the alleged faults of a victim make a rape deserved because rape is never deserved, especially if it's not deserved as punishment for rape under God's law of equal retribution.



Yes! That is what is being insisted upon because rape is never deserved. Can you disprove the claim that rape is never deserved?

So, you plan on arguing that gay marriage is legal so it's alright, and that abortion is legal so it's alright?

If you don't know that stripping for a bunch of men is wrong, I can't help you. If you don't know that bad behavior is wrong and deserves punishment, I can't help you. :carryon:

 

[Arthur Brain]

What should be the punishment for stripping?

Putting some clothes back on...

 

[glorydaz]

Are you calling me a sociopath?

Consider yourself lucky. I've been called a sewer and putrid. :chuckle:

 

[elohiym]

Nobody answered the scenario where the girl does the stripping for a living. Does she then deserve a frat party rape fest ?

Stripping is legal. Wearing a bikini is legal. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between the two acts, but neither justifies the "perpetrators" being raped for exposing their skin.

 

[intojoy]

Might be funny, but this is the wrong place for it. You need to have more tact!

Close the thread. It's ugly

 

[elohiym]

If you don't know that stripping for a bunch of men is wrong, I can't help you.

I can hardly tell the difference between a stripper dancing on a pole and a girl prancing around the beach in a string sans bikini.

If you don't know that bad behavior is wrong and deserves punishment, I can't help you.

What should be the punishment for wearing a thong in public?

 

[Arthur Brain]

What should be the punishment for wearing a thong in public?

Having platform shoes to go with it.

 

[elohiym]

Having platform shoes to go with it.

Agreed! Walking on a beach in those would be punishment enough. :chuckle:

 

[glorydaz]

Saying that people in certain circumstances deserve to be raped is wrong. I already know you don't care...

Wrongs deserve punishment. They really do, and you don't get to decide what the punishment should be.

But that's why you humanists have set yourselves up as gods, because you can't stand the Righteousness of God, and this way you get to make all the rules. You get to claim someone doesn't deserve to be punished for their own wrong doings. That little thing called consequences is something you choose to ignore. You can't even see that those consequences (hard though they may be) can teach us to stop doing those things we were doing.

 

[glorydaz]

I can hardly tell the difference between a stripper dancing on a pole and a girl prancing around the beach in a string sans bikini.



What should be the punishment for wearing a thong in public?

You want to boast about living in a world of sin? Have fun with that. I don't find it the least bit funny?