Rape victims

[Angel4Truth]

No dice. It wasn't just a 'word' and you know it. Both SOD and GD have expressly said that people deserve to be raped in their own twisted vile little contexts. You wanna deny that then go ahead. Anyone with an IQ above 4.7 can see it as plain as day.

They have clarified over and over and over and over what they mean, but you go ahead and pretend otherwise. They used the term in the same way i just did about the molestor deserving rape in prison, we all know that no one actually "deserves" rape. Not even the child molester.

 

[Arthur Brain]

They have clarified over and over and over and over what they mean, but you go ahead and pretend otherwise.

Bollocks. They've both said that people deserve to be raped if they "act" immorally so buy a clue Angel. Pretend otherwise yourself or rather more optimistically - wise the hell up.

 

[elohiym]

How should they be treated?
With compassion or blame?

Compassion.

Nobody deserves to be raped.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Bollocks. They've both said that people deserve to be raped if they "act" immorally so buy a clue Angel. Pretend otherwise yourself or rather more optimistically - wise the hell up.

You can keep pretending that no one ever does anything willfully that bring horrible consequences on themselves, as much as you like.

Not really an honest position though.

Im wise, i know full well that ive done things in my life that brought me pure misery because of my own willful actions.

Im sorry that youve somehow escaped that, seems to me you are who needs to wise up, since no amount of explanation, or clarification, will take you off your target to demonize someone for something ill bet you have done yourself.

You said you wouldn't cry over a pedophile getting raped in prison, and practically said its coming to him meaning you full well get the point.

Just keep being dishonest about it.

 

[Ktoyou]

Heated debate? Keep in mind what you say here might be said in heated debate.

 

[Arthur Brain]

You can keep pretending that no one ever does anything willfully that bring horrible consequences on themselves, as much as you like.

Not really an honest position though.

Im wise, i know full well that ive done things in my life that brought me pure misery because of my own willful actions.

Im sorry that youve somehow escaped that, seems to me you are who needs to wise up, since no amount of explanation, or clarification, will take you off your target to demonize someone for something ill bet you have done yourself.

You said you wouldn't cry over a pedophile getting raped in prison, and practically said its coming to him meaning you full well get the point.

Just keep being dishonest about it.

Hey, get this straight Angel. Nobody is denying that bad choices can lead to regrettable consequences or encouraging women to put themselves in positions of possible harm. There's one heck of a difference where it comes to people who have flat out said that "sluts" deserve to be raped. Get that? Buy a clue and address that okay?

I might not cry over a paedophile being done over in prison or a rapist either but I'm not advocating it as just, moral or right either.

How about you? Do you think certain people deserve to be raped?

 

[elohiym]

One could argue that in an eye-for-an-eye system a rapist deserves to be raped as his punishment, but in that same system no person could deserve to be raped for any other reason.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Hey, get this straight Angel. Nobody is denying that bad choices can lead to regrettable consequences or encouraging women to put themselves in positions of possible harm.

Great then you are wising up and getting the point being made.

How about you? Do you think certain people deserve to be raped?

I already answered you directly, or are you willfully forgetting in your zeal to demonize me, because you know ive made the point?

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4526405&postcount=861

Originally Posted by Arthur Brain Then explain the following, the bolded part especially, all written and conceived off the back of a turnip truck by the "maestro" himself: "Josephine is planning to go down to the Ferguson protests dressed in klan robes and a hood, carrying a sign that says "Michael Brown Deserved To Be Shot!" and shout racial slurs at the protesters. Josephine tells her plans to her friend Francine. Francine says "Don't do it - they'll beat you up and rape you." Josephine says "You're not the boss of me - I'll do what I want!" Josephine goes down to the Ferguson protests dressed in klan robes and a hood, carrying a sign that says "Michael Brown Deserved To Be Shot!" and shouts racial slurs at the protesters. Josephine gets beaten and raped. Those who beat and rape Josephine are arrested and charged. Francine comes to visit Josephine in the hospital. Josephine whines about how unfair it was that she got beaten and raped. Francine says "What are you talking about? You deserved to get beaten and raped. I told you not to go down there. You chose to get beaten and raped. Next time don't be such a moron" To which i responded: Originally Posted by Angel4Truth I disagree with the wording using "deserved" should be suffered a consequence of her poor and reckless behavior I disagree with the wording of chose "to be beaten and raped" Should be chose to willfully act carelessly and increase her liklihood of something bad happening to her, through her own irresponsibility. I would have said im sorry that you are suffering the consequences of being the victim of those crimes because of your willful actions of putting yourself knowingly in harms way. The one who assaulted and raped is NOT LESS GUILTY of their crime, because the woman in question is guilty of irresponsible behavior. Each are bearing consequences (one jail, the other suffering) and each are responsible for their own actions. One doesnt cancel or remove the other.

Guess you forgot huh.

 

[Ktoyou]

From the NT perspective,'turn the other cheek' is counter to 'eye for an eye'. It does not mean to give in to violence, rather to not be brought down to the same level as the criminal.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Great then you are wising up and getting the point being made.




I already answered you directly, or are you willfully forgetting in your zeal to demonize me, because you know ive made the point?

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4526405&postcount=861

Originally Posted by Arthur Brain To which i responded: Originally Posted by Angel4Truth

Guess you forgot huh.

So how come you're defending those who categorically state that some people deserve to be raped? I ain't interested in 'demonizing' you either so enough with the melodramatics okay?

 

[Greg Jennings]

From the NT perspective,'turn the other cheek' is counter to 'eye for an eye'. It does not mean to give in to violence, rather to not be brought down to the same level as the criminal.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but aren't you one of the people who wants to execute homosexuals?

 

[Angel4Truth]

So how come you're defending those who categorically state that some people deserve to be raped? I ain't interested in 'demonizing' you either so enough with the melodramatics okay?

Because they have clarified ad nauseum what they mean by what they are saying.

 

[Ktoyou]

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but aren't you one of the people who wants to execute homosexuals?

No, I strongly disapprove of homosexuality, never said they should be put to death. There are threads where I have stated this clearly.

 

[Greg Jennings]

No, I strongly disapprove of homosexuality, never said they should be put to death. There are threads where I have stated this clearly.

Ok. I was mistaken

 

[intojoy]

What about when slutty is hired and wanted ?. A stripper at a batchelor party, getting hired to dance and perform at a bachelor or frat party. This is how she makes money and she doesn't do it to get raped

Normally there's a bodyguard hired to accompany them

 

[intojoy]

If a fella wears tight pants does he deserve to be homosexually assaulted?

Yes he does for dressing like a homo

 

[Arthur Brain]

Because they have clarified ad nauseum what they mean by what they are saying.

Yeah, they've categorically said that certain women deserve to be raped. What about that is tripping you up exactly? You're not thick Angel so why are you defending their abominable stance?

 

[Ktoyou]

Yes he does for dressing like a homo

Might be funny, but this is the wrong place for it. You need to have more tact!

 

[patrick jane]

Yeah, they've categorically said that certain women deserve to be raped. What about that is tripping you up exactly? You're not thick Angel so why are you defending their abominable stance?

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[Angel4Truth]

Yeah, they've categorically said that certain women deserve to be raped. What about that is tripping you up exactly? You're not thick Angel so why are you defending their abominable stance?

I said (which you ignore) deserve and choose are bad choices of words but that i get their point, i said it numerous times and to you directly, what part are you not getting yet?


http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4526405&postcount=861

Originally Posted by Arthur Brain Then explain the following, the bolded part especially, all written and conceived off the back of a turnip truck by the "maestro" himself: "Josephine is planning to go down to the Ferguson protests dressed in klan robes and a hood, carrying a sign that says "Michael Brown Deserved To Be Shot!" and shout racial slurs at the protesters. Josephine tells her plans to her friend Francine. Francine says "Don't do it - they'll beat you up and rape you." Josephine says "You're not the boss of me - I'll do what I want!" Josephine goes down to the Ferguson protests dressed in klan robes and a hood, carrying a sign that says "Michael Brown Deserved To Be Shot!" and shouts racial slurs at the protesters. Josephine gets beaten and raped. Those who beat and rape Josephine are arrested and charged. Francine comes to visit Josephine in the hospital. Josephine whines about how unfair it was that she got beaten and raped. Francine says "What are you talking about? You deserved to get beaten and raped. I told you not to go down there. You chose to get beaten and raped. Next time don't be such a moron" To which i responded: Originally Posted by Angel4Truth I disagree with the wording using "deserved" should be suffered a consequence of her poor and reckless behavior I disagree with the wording of chose "to be beaten and raped" Should be chose to willfully act carelessly and increase her liklihood of something bad happening to her, through her own irresponsibility. I would have said im sorry that you are suffering the consequences of being the victim of those crimes because of your willful actions of putting yourself knowingly in harms way. The one who assaulted and raped is NOT LESS GUILTY of their crime, because the woman in question is guilty of irresponsible behavior. Each are bearing consequences (one jail, the other suffering) and each are responsible for their own actions. One doesnt cancel or remove the other.