elohiym
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The punishment must fit the crime. Rape is never a punishment and never justified.
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The punishment must fit the crime. Rape is never a punishment and never justified.
Arthur Brain
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Oh blah blah blah...
You know what people don't deserve, even self righteous cretins who downplay rape like yourself for example? To be raped.
Nobody deserves to be violated like that. Period.
Arthur Brain
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Yet you do chuckle where it comes to rape and apply the very same smiley on occasion in response to others...
elohiym
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Okay. We've established you believe stripping and wearing bikinis are sins. Are you lumping those alleged sins with crimes that deserve the punishment of rape, or do you want to maintain your long-standing claimed distinction between crimes and sins? Is God punishing sins still? Do people deserve punishment for what you claim Jesus paid for? More importantly, do you want women to wear burkas?
(Since you've already become evasive, I doubt you will give a serious, thoughtful response. Nevertheless, my points are there for those who can discern them.)
glorydaz
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I've played your game and you're full of deceit. So, I'll delete everything that was pure nonsense.
Okay what?
glorydaz
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I don't chuckle when it comes to rape....I chuckle when I come to your foolish comments. Yep, and others' foolish comments, too. You don't think I take you seriously, do you?
glorydaz
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So says the little god, Artie. Gotcha. :thumb:
excellent post !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
elohiym
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Okay that you find your perception of what I believe isn't funny. I'm comfortable with your delusion. It's just that I'm trying to find out if you have any argument to support that idea that some people deserve to be raped. You've precluded the idea of rape for rape according to God's law, so what else could you possibly have for an argument? Basically, you're cornered, look stupid because you think some people deserve to be raped, and so you resort to punting ... but not before you hurl the false accusation: "I've played your game and you're full of deceit." The truth is you've never played the game you imagine and nothing I've said is deceitful.
Arthur Brain
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No, you just say that some people are deserving of it as if being horrifically violated is like being lightly slapped on the wrist. It's not just foolish to reduce the ramifications of rape to such an ignorant extent but downright obnoxious as well. Of course you don't care. How could you when you exhibit zero empathy or understanding for others?
No, so says empathy, compassion, understanding etc. Try and get acquainted with them.
ok doser
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cool beans!
Spoiler
so none of us are responsible for the consequences of the choices we make or the actions we perform or the way we behave?
:think:
except rapists, right?
because they're men, and men are horrible brutes
but women can do whatever they want!
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Dialogos
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I'm sorry but I just can't watch this banter go on any longer.
Doser, there is never a time in which a rape victim "brings it on themselves."
We all make foolish decisions, some of those decision may put us in a position of greater risk of harm from others, but rape is never the just consequence of those foolish decisions, ever!
The bible says to admonish the idle, encourage the faint of heart, help the weak and be patient with them all.
Why are you admonishing the weak?
A woman who has experienced the trauma of a rape needs help, not a lecture. There may be a time, when she has healed from her physical and emotional wounds when she can be gently guided to look at her choices but to try and rebuke her at her weakest point is just shooting the wounded.
Maybe the problem is that this is just a hypothetical for many. If you have ever known a woman who has had to endure the soul ripping pain and humiliation of being raped you might understand that this is one of the most violent acts anyone can do to another human being.
Help the weak, Doser.
ok doser
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Ezra 9:13 shows that our iniquities deserve punishment
| Ezra 9:13 And after all that is come upon us for our evil deeds, and for our great trespass, seeing that thou our God hast punished us less than our iniquities deserve, and hast given us such deliverance as this; |
ok doser
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in what way was this woman "horrifically violated"?
| Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”: “They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’” Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped. |
ok doser
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Those of us who are God fearing leave judgment in His hands. Through the action on the cross we are wiped clean and saved.
We are called to love God and love our neighbor.
Harsh judgmentalism is often seen in persons who had abusive, unloving childhoods.
LoneStar
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amen. There have been cases where groups of men that were polled of attitudes toward rape. Those whom had the attitude that some women "ask for it" were chosen to spend a couple of days helping rape victims. After witnessing the victims and listening to their ordeals >>>>> every single one in the group changed their attitude. They all realized that no woman should have to endure
what they experienced. It makes a lsting impression.
ok doser
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how loving is it to tell your neighbor "there there - you go right ahead and keep acting like a whore - if you get assaulted it's not your fault"?
It's about as effective as trying to introduce a homosexual to God by opening with, "God wants you dead." As you as you say it you have completely shut them down to ever listening to another word out of your mouth with anything but scorn.
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