Rape victims

[ok doser]

so what does a woman who acts like a whore, strips at frat parties, gives lap dances, drinks to excess and take drugs deserve for her slutty behavior if not the consequences of those behaviors?

She deserves somebody who loves and cares for her enough to help her see the risk she has exposed herself to and will help her get out of that lifestyle before she suffers worse consequences. She deserves God's love and compassion from those of us who claim to have Jesus in our hearts.

good answer!

now, what does she deserve if she rejects that and insists on continuing to behave in a manner that she knows is risky?

Seems to me a prostitute helped the Israelite's win a major battle? And this came right from God.

:think: are you suggesting that we should encourage women to be prostitutes?

... the day someone shows no emotions for a rape victim will be a sad day indeed.

the amish girls kidnapper had digital files showing that he had sexually molested three other victims previously

if you had an opportunity to counsel him in prison after he had been raped by his fellow inmates, what emotions would you show him?

Here is my point, do not make trouble. There has been enough nonsense. Get this, no woman, no matter how she behaves, ever deserves to be raped, anymore than you deserve it! Get it?

Ezra recognizes that we deserve punishment for our iniquities:

Ezra 9:13 And after all that is come upon us for our evil deeds, and for our great trespass, seeing that thou our God hast punished us less than our iniquities deserve, and hast given us such deliverance as this;

ok doser asks:

so what does a woman who acts like a whore, strips at frat parties, gives lap dances, drinks to excess and take drugs deserve for her slutty behavior if not the consequences of those behaviors?

artie replies:

A hangover.

why?

why should she expect any consequences?

I wouldn't exactly cry if the guy who raped my sister was subjected to the same ordeal he put her through...

hypocrite

...SOD...(has)... expressly said that people deserve to be raped...

all people?

Hey, get this straight Angel. Nobody is denying that bad choices can lead to regrettable consequences...

but that's not faaaaiiiirrrrrr!

...people who have flat out said that "sluts" deserve to be raped.

cite?

I might not cry over a paedophile being done over in prison or a rapist either ....

hypocrite

 

[ok doser]

It's about as effective as trying to introduce a homosexual to God by opening with, "God wants you dead." As you as you say it you have completely shut them down to ever listening to another word out of your mouth with anything but scorn.

do you think your witness is more effective if you lie to them?

 

[CabinetMaker]

do you think your witness is more effective if you lie to them?

I think there are far more effective ways to open a discussion if you are truly concerned about a person.

 

[Tambora]

I think there are far more effective ways to open a discussion if you are truly concerned about a person.

Doser would rather play the blame game than show compassion.

 

[ok doser]

angel asks:

What else would you like from me ...

buried in artie's rant of a reply is this:

... reprimand the tossers that are doing it?

he's frustrated, angel, that his pathetic little insults aren't having any effect and wants you to help him

... I got mixed up with so many rape threads.

maybe i should make a few more! :banana:

Common sense that somehow evades the more sociopath elements here...:thumb:

Are you calling me a sociopath?

no, that's me! :banana:

You are brain dead.

Apparently so...

:darwinsm:

 

[ok doser]

So she only DESERVES the physical rape and not the emotional and psychological effects according to the dose man.

well, i told you i was chewing on it

 

[ok doser]

Nobody answered the scenario where the girl does the stripping for a living. Does she then deserve a frat party rape fest ?

she deserves to be held responsible for the consequences of her actions

 

[ok doser]

What should be the punishment for wearing a thong in public?

if you're a fat old wrinkled man? :freak:

Spoiler

 

[Tambora]

she deserves to be held responsible for the consequences of her actions

Not by having her body raped.
You are sick perverted man.

I will pray for your troubled perverted soul.

 

[ok doser]

The punishment must fit the crime. Rape is never a punishment and never justified.

don't believe anybody's claiming that it's "justified" (but i might! :banana: )

i'm arguing that, in certain cases, it is deserved - using the definition

to have earned because of some act or quality

 

[Tambora]

don't believe anybody's claiming that it's "justified" (but i might! :banana: )

i'm arguing that, in certain cases, it is deserved - using the definition

to have earned because of some act or quality

Sick.

 

[ok doser]

Okay that you find your perception of what I believe isn't funny. I'm comfortable with your delusion. It's just that I'm trying to find out if you have any argument to support that idea that some people deserve to be raped. You've precluded the idea of rape for rape according to God's law, so what else could you possibly have for an argument? Basically, you're cornered, look stupid because you think some people deserve to be raped, and so you resort to punting ... but not before you hurl the false accusation: "I've played your game and you're full of deceit." The truth is you've never played the game you imagine and nothing I've said is deceitful.

do we deserve the consequences of our actions, when we know the risks we are taking and choose to ignore those risks?

if i put on klan robes and a hood and go to Michael Brown's funeral and taunt his grieving parents with racial slurs, do i deserve the beating i will get?

did I ask for it?

 

[ok doser]

Doser would rather play the blame game than show compassion.

depending on the situation, yes

remember that Josephine was refusing to take responsibility for her behavior

 

[Tambora]

do we deserve the consequences of our actions,

Not by having your body raped.
EVER!!!!!

 

[ok doser]

she deserves to be held responsible for the consequences of her actions

Not by having her body raped.

maybe i see where the disconnect is

tam - nobody is suggesting that we go out whore-hunting and rape them for their own good

what i am suggesting is that we recognize that those who choose to act like whores shouldn't be surprised if they get raped

 

[Tambora]

maybe i see where the disconnect is

tam - nobody is suggesting that we go out whore-hunting and rape them for their own good

what i am suggesting is that we recognize that those who choose to act like whores shouldn't be surprised if they get raped

No sir.
What you have repeatedly said over and over and over again it that some DESERVE BEING RAPED, ASKED FOR BEING RAPED, CHOSE BEING RAPED.

And you continue your sick twisted perverted mindset.
The only disconnect is within your twisted troubled soul.
You need help, big time.

No one deserves to have their body raped by another.
No one.

 

[ok doser]

No sir.

well, actually yes

i reworded it because you seem to be hung up on the language

 

[Tambora]

well, actually yes

i reworded it because you seem to be hung up on the language

I am using the very language you used.
Would you now like to recant your hateful twisted perverted view that some women DESERVE BEING RAPED, ASKED FOR BEING RAPED, CHOSE BEING RAPED?

You are sick and twisted.
You need help.

 

[ok doser]

I am using the very language you used.

yeah, i know, in a slightly different form

and are refusing to hear me explain what i mean by it

so i thought i might try again

silly me


but i do congratulate you for including the "some" :thumb:

instead of pretending i meant "all" like some of the dishonest scumbags around here

 

[Rusha]

I think there are far more effective ways to open a discussion if you are truly concerned about a person.

His *only* concern is stirring up trouble and causing dissension on the board and among members.