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They're not crazy, nor are they lying. This ongoing sham is only really going to result in further division within the Republican camp. It's ridiculous.


Once again, your information is out of date, and wrong.


@Arthur Brain The guy doing the examination of the equipment says that a database containing information about votes was, in fact, deleted. He also says that he was successfully able to recover all of the deleted data.
 

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They're not crazy, nor are they lying. This ongoing sham is only really going to result in further division within the Republican camp. It's ridiculous.

Democrat voter fraud has been ongoing for more than 100 years. Their claims that it is a sham or a conspiracy theory are deliberate lies designed to fool the public into refusing to take it seriously.
 

Derf

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They're not crazy, nor are they lying. This ongoing sham is only really going to result in further division within the Republican camp. It's ridiculous.

If your sources said that Ben Cotton claimed the databases were not deleted (which they did), but Ben Cotton reiterated that he never said that (which he did), then those news sources you relied on have given false information. You tell me: Are they
1. crazy (in which case you should not rely on them)
2. lying (in which case you should not rely on them)
3. unable to understand the English language (in which case you should not rely on them)?

If you have another reason for why they might be providing false information, please provide. Maybe "for the good of the country", or "because they were told to do so, and they are very loyal to their masters".

But it boils down to this: they provided false information, and they cannot be trusted on this issue.

And it boils down to this, also. You believed them before, and you believe them now, even after Ben Cotton's clarification. So you are also untrustworthy.

And you're a troll.
 

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No, it isn't or quote me in direct context as to what Derf was accusing me of. I'll wait while that doesn't happen.

What Derf said in post #466, which RD quoted in post #481, is correct. You, Arthur Brain, are, in fact, a hypocrite.
 

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If your sources said that Ben Cotton claimed the databases were not deleted (which they did), but Ben Cotton reiterated that he never said that (which he did), then those news sources you relied on have given false information. You tell me: Are they
1. crazy (in which case you should not rely on them)
2. lying (in which case you should not rely on them)
3. unable to understand the English language (in which case you should not rely on them)?

If you have another reason for why they might be providing false information, please provide. Maybe "for the good of the country", or "because they were told to do so, and they are very loyal to their masters".

But it boils down to this: they provided false information, and they cannot be trusted on this issue.

And it boils down to this, also. You believed them before, and you believe them now, even after Ben Cotton's clarification. So you are also untrustworthy.

And you're a troll.
Why should news outlets be obliged to jump through your hoops as to what's considered "false information"? I've followed this fiasco from the start and this latest circus was only to be expected. With regards to Ben Cotton then all of this stuff about databases being deleted has come to what exactly? Backtracking? Feeble excuses?

Considering that you've erroneously accused me of having double standards on here then your troll rubbish can be filed in the appropriate place thanks.
 

Arthur Brain

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What Derf said in post #466, which RD quoted in post #481, is correct. You, Arthur Brain, are, in fact, a hypocrite.
In that case then so are you, so's Derf and so's RD, because we all are. In context of what Derf was accusing me of then nope. Else quote me on point.
 

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Why should news outlets be obliged to jump through your hoops as to what's considered "false information"? I've followed this fiasco from the start and this latest circus was only to be expected. With regards to Ben Cotton then all of this stuff about databases being deleted has come to what exactly? Backtracking? Feeble excuses?

Considering that you've erroneously accused me of having double standards on here then your troll rubbish can be filed in the appropriate place thanks.
What a joke. Yeah, why should "news outlets" jump through hoops to find truth. You've just, once again, demonstrated your duplicity.
 

Derf

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Why should news outlets be obliged to jump through your hoops as to what's considered "false information"?
That was the same question I had about TGP and your hoops. Yet you still maintain that TGP is bad, and yours are good, purveyors of truth. Including about this particular issue where TGP reported correctly and yours reported falsely. Troll Hypocrisy #1

I've followed this fiasco from the start and this latest circus was only to be expected.
I agree! So why is your darling MSM creating such a circus about it? Troll Hypocrisy #2

With regards to Ben Cotton then all of this stuff about databases being deleted has come to what exactly? Backtracking? Feeble excuses?
Yes, that's exactly what your darling MSM is doing--having to backtrack and make feeble excuses. But the deleting of the databases has come to a RECOVERY of the databases after the Maricopa County BOS either deleted the material, or someone else did that surprisingly had access to the files, and refused to provide subpoenaed material, all while saying "Nothing to see here". Troll Hypocrisy #3 and 4

(additional comment: it doesn't really matter what the deleted databases results in. The point was that there were deleted databases. Your MSM sources said there weren't, and additionally said that Ban Cotton said there weren't. Both were false statements, along with accusations that TGP and others were lying about deleted databases. Yet you routinely criticize TGP and other pro-audit sources for giving false information. That makes it both a hypocrisy for YOU and for your darling MSM sources. But you don't care if they make false statements about TGP making false statements, so that makes it a double hypocrisy for you.)

Considering that you've erroneously accused me of having double standards on here then your troll rubbish can be filed in the appropriate place thanks.
No further comment needed. Troll Hypocrisy #5
 
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Arthur Brain

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That was the same question I had about TGP and your hoops. Yet you still maintain that TGP is bad, and yours are good, purveyors of truth. Including about this particular issue where TGP reported correctly and yours reported falsely. Troll Hypocrisy #1


I agree! So why is your darling MSM creating such a circus about it? Troll Hypocrisy #2


Yes, that's exactly what your darling MSM is doing--having to backtrack and make feeble excuses. But the deleting of the databases has come to a RECOVERY of the databases after the Maricopa County BOS either deleted the material, or someone else did that surprisingly had access to the files, and refused to provide subpoenaed material, all while saying "Nothing to see here". Troll Hypocrisy #3 and 4

(additional comment: it doesn't really matter what the deleted databases results in. The point was that there were deleted databases. Your MSM sources said there weren't, and additionally said that Ban Cotton said there weren't. Both were false statements, along with accusations that TGP and others were lying about deleted databases. Yet you routinely criticize TGP and other pro-audit sources for giving false information. That makes it both a hypocrisy for YOU and for your darling MSM sources. But you don't care if they make false staements about TGP making false statements, so that makes it a double hypocrisy for you.)


No further comment needed. Troll Hypocrisy #5
TGP is a joke, pure and simple, it's not a news site along with plenty of others routinely touted around here. It's a discredited, far right sham that purports conspiracy rubbish and total baloney. So frankly, enuff said. The reason why the "MSM" isn't reporting the same in such "boom" type glee is because credible news sites like to have at least a semblance of fact before spouting off ridiculous bunk. You can carry on with your "troll" diatribes as you wish. Not interested.
 

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TGP is a joke, pure and simple, it's not a news site along with plenty of others routinely touted around here. It's a discredited, far right sham that purports conspiracy rubbish and total baloney. So frankly, enuff said.

So what? Who cares? What's important is what is said, not who says it.

TGP were correct when they said that something had been deleted, where your "MSM" wrongly said that nothing had been deleted.

You're making a genetic fallacy. Don't base your reasoning on fallacies, Arty.

The reason why the "MSM" isn't reporting the same

Is that they don't care about the truth. Even worse, they hate the truth, because the Truth can set them free.

Simple as that.

in such "boom" type glee is because credible news sites like to have at least a semblance of fact before spouting off ridiculous bunk.

Stating that there was nothing deleted is not factual, Arty. It's called LYING.

Their claim that nothing was deleted, and as Derf pointed out, their claim that Cotton said that nothing was deleted, is what you call, "spouting off ridiculous bunk," and not, "at least a semblance of fact."

You can carry on with your "troll" diatribes as you wish. Not interested.

You are a troll, and a hypocrite, Arthur Brain.

You should stop being one.

Ask God to help you with it.
 

Arthur Brain

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So what? Who cares? What's important is what is said, not who says it.

TGP were correct when they said that something had been deleted, where your "MSM" wrongly said that nothing had been deleted.

You're making a genetic fallacy. Don't base your reasoning on fallacies, Arty.



Is that they don't care about the truth. Even worse, they hate the truth, because the Truth can set them free.

Simple as that.



Stating that there was nothing deleted is not factual, Arty. It's called LYING.

Their claim that nothing was deleted, and as Derf pointed out, their claim that Cotton said that nothing was deleted, is what you call, "spouting off ridiculous bunk," and not, "at least a semblance of fact."



You are a troll, and a hypocrite, Arthur Brain.

You should stop being one.

Ask God to help you with it.
TGP were not correct. Frankly, if I'm as you suggest then you are too and I'm not inclined to engage further if that's your remit. You attempted to chastise me in the Corona Virus Scam thread for being belittling to other people and I answered you point for point without any response from you in turn in regards to Dr Ted Noel. So, you can accuse me of what you will, it's pathetic, adds nothing to discourse, means nothing to me and only reflects poorly on you.
 

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TGP were not correct.

Denying reality isn't good for your health, Arthur Brain.

The MSM lied, and said there was nothing deleted.

IIRC, TGP was one of the ones that initially made the announcement that there had been deleted files found, and recovered.

That announcement has now been verified by the very person who found the deleted files AND RECOVERED THEM.
 

Arthur Brain

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Denying reality isn't good for your health, Arthur Brain.

The MSM lied, and said there was nothing deleted.

IIRC, TGP was one of the ones that initially made the announcement that there had been deleted files found, and recovered.

That announcement has now been verified by the very person who found the deleted files AND RECOVERED THEM.
Cite. Something reputable and that can be corroborated. Let's take it from there.
 
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