Maricopa county ballot audit begins today

Arthur Brain

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I provided evidence. You rejected it. If you are the arbiter of evidence for American elections, then we’re in big trouble. Fortunately, you aren’t. But you can’t anymore say there is no evidence, at least not truthfully. But you don’t seem to care about truth, based on your news sources.
If I was the arbiter for what constitutes evidence then I'd want a darn sight more than what you provided whatever the case and whoever it was supporting or opposing. One thing you seem to continually forget here. If there was tangible evidence for widespread corruption and voter fraud in the last election then I'd be all for it being overturned and parties concerned held accountable. As much as it's great for the former oaf to be ousted from office I'd be no fan for that to come about by nefarious means.

Your latter is just off the scale. TGP is not a "news source" by any credible stretch.
 

Gary K

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If I was the arbiter for what constitutes evidence then I'd want a darn sight more than what you provided whatever the case and whoever it was supporting or opposing. One thing you seem to continually forget here. If there was tangible evidence for widespread corruption and voter fraud in the last election then I'd be all for it being overturned and parties concerned held accountable. As much as it's great for the former oaf to be ousted from office I'd be no fan for that to come about by nefarious means.

Your latter is just off the scale. TGP is not a "news source" by any credible stretch.
If TGP isn't a credible news source than neither is CNN, BBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NYT, LAT, NBC, etc.... They have been caught out flat out inventing stuff for a long time. They lie through their teeth on a regular basis.

You are no judge of what is, or is not, a reliable news source, troll.
 

Arthur Brain

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If TGP isn't a credible news source than neither is CNN, BBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NYT, LAT, NBC, etc.... They have been caught out flat out inventing stuff for a long time. They lie through their teeth on a regular basis.

You are no judge of what is, or is not, a reliable news source, troll.
Or Infowars, Daily Stormer etc?




Frankly, you are a conspiracy loon who'd be better off getting 'news' off a crisp packet.
 

Gary K

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Or Infowars, Daily Stormer etc?




Frankly, you are a conspiracy loon who'd be better off getting 'news' off a crisp packet.
LOL. I'm not even close to the as big a conspiracy theorist as you are. You buy into every conspiracy the mockingbird media publishes, and they publish many of them a day.

You know of sites I've never even seen. Daily Stormer? Never heard of it. But, I guess that's where you go to get your news along with the rest of the fascist news sites you read. It sounds, by it's title, like something you would read a lot as you're a big fascist/communist/socialist.
 

Arthur Brain

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LOL. I'm not even close to the as big a conspiracy theorist as you are. You buy into every conspiracy the mockingbird media publishes, and they publish many of them a day.

You know of sites I've never even seen. Daily Stormer? Never heard of it. But, I guess that's where you go to get your news along with the rest of the fascist news sites you read. It sounds, by it's title, like something you would read a lot as you're a big fascist/communist/socialist.
Well, you're certainly familiar with TGP & Infowars so Daily Stormer isn't that much removed from those bonkers outfits frankly. They're all loony tunes...

Not sure what conspiracy theories you reckon I buy into exactly without you laying them out? Too much Oxygen in the air? Too many Bi-planes allowed to fly at inaugural flight conventions?
 

Derf

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If I was the arbiter for what constitutes evidence then I'd want a darn sight more than what you provided whatever the case and whoever it was supporting or opposing. One thing you seem to continually forget here. If there was tangible evidence for widespread corruption and voter fraud in the last election then I'd be all for it being overturned and parties concerned held accountable. As much as it's great for the former oaf to be ousted from office I'd be no fan for that to come about by nefarious means.

Your latter is just off the scale. TGP is not a "news source" by any credible stretch.
Again, you judge based on your own opinions. My opinions are just as valid, if that’s what we’re going by. But it’s not. Eventually truth will prevail, just like it did on the Russia collusion thing. Why are your standards so tight against the audit, when so loose regarding bearing false witness against the leader of our country?

Your standards are your own, and you can’t even live up to them. You’re trolling yourself, and you can’t see it.
 
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marke

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Oh get over yourself. If you have actual evidence to support your posit then you needed a whole load more than some barely distinguishable snapshot of something. I'm not a "leftist" even if anyone who isn't on board with widespread fraud computes to being one for you so if all you've got is this "trolling" garbage then take a look in the mirror.
Democrats claim democrats do not commit voter fraud. That is a lie, although, admittedly, there are millions of gullible rubes who really do believe that lie.

IT LOOKS INCREASINGLY likely that at least one member of the United States Senate may owe his seat in the world’s greatest deliberative body not to his charisma or the persuasiveness of his message but to voter fraud.
As the Wall Street Journal's John Fund reports, Minnesota Democrat Al Franken’s narrow, 312-vote victory in 2008 over incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman may have come as the result of people being allowed to vote who, under existing law, shouldn’t have been.
The certification of Franken as the victor came only after a series of recounts dragging out for almost half a year. It also sparked an investigation by Minnesota Majority, a conservative watchdog group that compared the list of those recorded as having voted in the election against what Fund calls “criminal rap sheets.” The group found, in what appears to clearly warrant further and official inquiry, that
… At least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's Hennepin County, the state's largest, and another 52 voted illegally in St. Paul's Ramsey County, the state's second largest. Dan McGrath, head of Minnesota Majority, says that only conclusive matches were included in the group's totals. The number of felons voting in those two counties alone exceeds Mr. Franken's victory margin.
Thus far no one is calling for the results to be overturned. Indeed Dan McGrath, who spearheaded the inquiry, told Fox News, "We aren't trying to change the result of the last election. That legally can't be done." He added: “We are just trying to make sure the integrity of the next election isn't compromised."
McGrath’s point is a good one. The only question is how the integrity of U.S. elections can be maintained when senior policymakers inside the United States Department of Justice, through their actions and instructions to their staffs, do not seem to believe that voter fraud exists or, if it does, that it is not worth investigating.
 

marke

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Well, you're certainly familiar with TGP & Infowars so Daily Stormer isn't that much removed from those bonkers outfits frankly. They're all loony tunes...

Not sure what conspiracy theories you reckon I buy into exactly without you laying them out? Too much Oxygen in the air? Too many Bi-planes allowed to fly at inaugural flight conventions?
Dummycraps lie for 'the cause': 'Trump did more damage to America than any other president in US history, and the 2020 election was the cleanest, most honest and accurate election in US history.'

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article216694645.html
Miami-Dade corruption prosecutors are investigating allegations that at least 275 ineligible felons voted illegally in the county’s November 2016 general election.
The questionable ballots were discovered during an examination of a sample of 922 registered, but ineligible felon voters identified and purged by the Miami-Dade Supervisor of Elections Office in the six months after the 2016 election. It is a third-degree felony to cast a fraudulent vote or to swear falsely when registering to vote.
The investigation’s existence was disclosed in a July 25 email from prosecutors to Andrew Ladanowski, a Coral Springs data analyst who contacted authorities after his public records request to the elections office turned up evidence of voting by ineligible felons whose civil rights had not been restored.
 

Derf

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But you can't use anything from NewsNet. NewsNet is not an Arthur-Brain-approved source of evidence. That's because it reports news that is not in keeping with Arthur Brain's understanding of truth. All potential truth sources have to apply to @Arthur Brain for approval.

Unfortunately, even the Bible is not approved as a source of truth, as God never applied to Arthur Brain for approval. Neither did Moses or David or Jeremiah or Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.
 

Arthur Brain

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Again, you judge based on your own opinions. My opinions are just as valid, if that’s what we’re going by. But it’s not. Eventually truth will prevail, just like it did on the Russia collusion thing—for which you never, ever, demanded any “tangible” evidence. Why are your standards so tight against the audit, when so loose regarding bearing false witness against the leader of our country?

Your standards are your own, and you can’t even live up to them. You’re trolling yourself, and you can’t see it.
I judge based on the events and the subsequent ongoing. In regards to these allegations of fraud, then frankly, none of it was a surprise. As ill advised as it was for Trump to claim election victory only a few hours after the initial results were coming in it was hardly a shock. I've seen how Trump operates long before he became president and the man is a walking ego. Now major news outlets were already forecasting a swing towards Biden in states where Trump had an initial lead because of the prevailing democrat vote with mail in ballots. Trump's administration team were surely aware of this as Trump must surely have been himself so why the feigned surprise when results were going Biden's way? The answer is simple - ego. Cue a slurry of cries of the election being stolen, fraud, vote rigging etc and all of which coming to nought because the allegations were baseless.

All that's resulted from the debacle is lawsuits against Trump's former team from Dominion & Smartmatic, threatened ones for the likes of Fox News and a whole load of embarrassment for Republicans, many of which have now had enough. Credit to the likes of Raffsenberger who kicked Trump into touch with that execrable phone call about finding 11,000 votes. I reckon if this had been any other president they'd have picked up their ball and gone home by now but not Trump. This latest is just dragging it out yet more.

Quote me in regards to Russian collusion because you're just making that up frankly. That hasn't gone away btw, far from it but you'll have to show where I've bore false witness against Trump thanks. Otherwise, you're the one that's trolling here.
 

Arthur Brain

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But you can't use anything from NewsNet. NewsNet is not an Arthur-Brain-approved source of evidence. That's because it reports news that is not in keeping with Arthur Brain's understanding of truth. All potential truth sources have to apply to @Arthur Brain for approval.

Unfortunately, even the Bible is not approved as a source of truth, as God never applied to Arthur Brain for approval. Neither did Moses or David or Jeremiah or Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.
Oh get over yourself again Derf. There's certain platforms that are just whack a doodle bat crazy, TGP, Infowars, Daily Stormer etc and I've no hesitation in calling them that. They are not news sources and if you buy into such as a source of "news" then more fool you.
 

Derf

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Oh get over yourself again Derf. There's certain platforms that are just whack a doodle bat crazy, TGP, Infowars, Daily Stormer etc and I've no hesitation in calling them that. They are not news sources and if you buy into such as a source of "news" then more fool you.
Don’t forget CNN and The Hill: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...ction-audit-reverse-say-no-data-was-destroyed
Though I don’t think they are crazy; I think they are purposely lying to their readers/viewers. Crazy is less morally at fault than lying. But you wouldn’t know about that, since that’s somebody else’s standard of truth.
 

marke

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I judge based on the events and the subsequent ongoing. In regards to these allegations of fraud, then frankly, none of it was a surprise. As ill advised as it was for Trump to claim election victory only a few hours after the initial results were coming in it was hardly a shock. I've seen how Trump operates long before he became president and the man is a walking ego. Now major news outlets were already forecasting a swing towards Biden in states where Trump had an initial lead because of the prevailing democrat vote with mail in ballots. Trump's administration team were surely aware of this as Trump must surely have been himself so why the feigned surprise when results were going Biden's way? The answer is simple - ego. Cue a slurry of cries of the election being stolen, fraud, vote rigging etc and all of which coming to nought because the allegations were baseless.

All that's resulted from the debacle is lawsuits against Trump's former team from Dominion & Smartmatic, threatened ones for the likes of Fox News and a whole load of embarrassment for Republicans, many of which have now had enough. Credit to the likes of Raffsenberger who kicked Trump into touch with that execrable phone call about finding 11,000 votes. I reckon if this had been any other president they'd have picked up their ball and gone home by now but not Trump. This latest is just dragging it out yet more.

Quote me in regards to Russian collusion because you're just making that up frankly. That hasn't gone away btw, far from it but you'll have to show where I've bore false witness against Trump thanks. Otherwise, you're the one that's trolling here.
Dominion machines experienced problems in 2020 in several states, and their claims of purity, efficiency, integrity, transparency, honesty, and accuracy are just dishonest sales pitches that cover the flaws for self-serving reasons.

Dominion is "surprised" to find out that their machines had multiple problems.

Election officials in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, reported issues with voting equipment at polling places on Tuesday, prompting a response from Dominion Voting Systems saying that there was a ballot screen error regarding the viewing screen’s header. ...
Luzerne County Director of Elections Bob Morgan told local media that coding on the Dominion Voting Systems machines triggered the problem. ...
Vough added to the paper he would suggest that Luzerne County end its contract with Dominion during the next council meeting.
Morgan, meanwhile, explained to PAHomepage that “there is no evidence of any of this problem on the mail-in ballots which were produced from that file” and added that the county is “still working with Dominion to get an explanation as to how this coding error occurred. They were as surprised about it as we were.”
 

marke

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Oh get over yourself again Derf. There's certain platforms that are just whack a doodle bat crazy, TGP, Infowars, Daily Stormer etc and I've no hesitation in calling them that. They are not news sources and if you buy into such as a source of "news" then more fool you.
Do you think the NY Times is "bat crazy?"

FRAUD during election hours was one thing, but it did not end with the closing of the polls. When election officials counted the votes, the laws of mathematics were subject to political necessity. The bosses nominated election officials more for their party loyalty than for their devotion to civic duty, like the Philadelphia official who returned 252 votes from a precinct which had only 100 registered voters. Perhaps anticipating accusations of fraud, election officers appointed by Boss Tweed of New York protected themselves morally by being sworn in not upon the Bible but on Ollendorfs “New Method of Learning to Read, Write and Speak French.”
 

Gary K

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Well, you're certainly familiar with TGP & Infowars so Daily Stormer isn't that much removed from those bonkers outfits frankly. They're all loony tunes...

Not sure what conspiracy theories you reckon I buy into exactly without you laying them out? Too much Oxygen in the air? Too many Bi-planes allowed to fly at inaugural flight conventions?
At least 90% of what the mockingbird media publishes are conspiracy theories, and you can't figure out what conspiracy theories you buy into?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
What I've been able to glean from a quick search of the Internet is that

1. databases were deleted
and
2. they were able to be recovered by the auditing firm hired by the Arizona state senate
and
3. some typically dishonest MSM outlets are therefore claiming that this means NO DATABASES WERE DELETED!!!!!!
and
4. the retarded people who believe the typically dishonest MSM outlets are outraged

because retards
 

Arthur Brain

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Don’t forget CNN and The Hill: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...ction-audit-reverse-say-no-data-was-destroyed
Though I don’t think they are crazy; I think they are purposely lying to their readers/viewers. Crazy is less morally at fault than lying. But you wouldn’t know about that, since that’s somebody else’s standard of truth.
They're not crazy, nor are they lying. This ongoing sham is only really going to result in further division within the Republican camp. It's ridiculous.

 
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