There is no "but" the "but" is your flesh talking, since you believe that you have power over God, that no one and nothing can separate you from Him once He purchased you, yet you can remove His seal yourself... hmm
Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood.
Do tell how you can purchase yourself back and present scripture.
2 Corinthians 1:22 Now it is God who establishes both us and you in Christ. He anointed us, 22 placed His seal on us, and put His Spirit in our hearts as a pledge of what is to come.
Really sad you don't believe this.
Ephesians 4:20 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
See, we can do what is wrong and grieve His Spirit - yet that still does not separate us again.
I wouldn't believe someone wanting to molest a child, to be saved.
No, they put themselves to shame, not Him. Putting Christ to open shame is to believe after He did all for you, that you can add to it. That is why no more sacrifice for sin remains, He already did it all. He doesn't need your help to save anyone or keep them saved, you either believe His promises or you dont.
Nope.
Look at your own sentence, that doesnt denote loss of salvation, it denotes one who was NEVER saved. There is a difference.
Then you believe His promises arent true.
Those who think they lend one ounce to salvation is one who wants to be first, since they believe they have power to remove themselves from His hand.
If we are saved, we will continue to be, you either believe Him or you dont.
Philippians 1:6 For I am confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will continue to perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus
1 Corinthians 1:8
He will sustain you to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
He, not you. Somehow you dont believe Him.
You quoted this earlier
Romans 8
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
But you left out the rest
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
If we walk after the flesh and not after the spirit then will still come under condemnation.
As I said, we all sin every day, but to purposely sin knowing it's wrong before God is different. We will suffer for doing this, and if we carry on then we are choosing one Satan over God.
If you want to carry on thinking your ok and that you're sealed even if you live how you want to and carry on purposely sinning then thats between you and God. I know that's not the truth. I know that if we put ourselves before God and deny Jesus, then we're not worthy of him.
How about this in Ephesians 5
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.*For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God
That's pretty plain!
And this is what it actually says about no more sacrifice for sins remains. It's if we wilfully sin!
Hebrews 10
KJV
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Niv
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left
The only way we continue to be saved is if you walk after the spirit and not after the flesh
The wages of sin is death. That's as clear as crystal.
By the way, you say that anyone molesting children were not saved in the first place, what about all the other people who are wilfully sinning saying there are saved, aren't they really saved either? Where do you draw the line? Which sins are ok and which ones aren't?
I believe that we are sealed as long we keep our faith, obey the living God and follow Jesus and turn away from the lusts of the flesh and away from sin. I know that I will be chastised for wilfully sinning, And if I carry on, I know that God will let me go my own way and it will be my own fault because I will be a worker of iniquity, the holy spirit is saving me from sin every day, I know because he is giving me the power to overcome, but I also know that if I disobey God and go after the flesh then I will lose the power of the spirit and I will be dead again. I know that I must obey God and live by his will not my own!
