Are you still voting for Bush ? Are you keeping the avatar out of respect ?
ECT FAITH ALONE: DID JESUS TEACH IT?
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Are you still voting for Bush ? Are you keeping the avatar out of respect ?
Follow your own rabbit trail.
"The means of reforming the Church was the gospel."*
–*Albert Mohler
He'll need to switch it to trump
I'm not an idiot
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
But a Romanish one
Cruciform
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Thus, my statements stand exactly as posted.
Your denomination stands on its own. You split !
Nothing resembling the Romanist Church of
today existed until the late-Fourth ...or early-
Fifth... Centuries.
In 115 A.D., the Church of Antioch and the
Church of Rome were just two of five major
regional churches. *The use of the term
"Catholic" (or "Universal") meant that all true
churches are the Bride of Christ.
That the Church of Rome centuries later
became apostate, and started calling itself
THE "Catholic" church, does ~not~ make
it true !
The Church of Rome is no more the
"Catholic Church" than the JW's are
really Witnesses of Jehovah, or that
Christian Science is either Christian
or scientific.
SaulToPaul 2
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It sure looks nothing like the church of Acts 1-7.
In fact, it greatly resembles the many Pharisees which rejected the Lord Jesus.
And it greatly resembles Baal worship (with a few "Christian" words tossed in)
Cruciform
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Your comments here merely place your vast ignorance of ecclesiastical history on public display (again). Your claims will convince no one who is actually educated on the subject.
God's Truth
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Questions or Comments?
Faith alone is mentioned one time, and it is to warn us of what kind of faith NOT to have.
See James 2:14, 17, 20, and 22.
Don't rely on unproven books that causes you to make stories and think it's from God.
Cruciform
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Still Post #170.
Here is Ellicott's Commentary on who the rock is that Jesus says the Church will be built:
What is the rock? Peter’s faith (subjective)? or the truth (objective) which he confessed? or Christ Himself? Taking all the facts of the case, the balance seems to incline in favour of the last view. (1.) Christ and not Peter is the Rock in 1Corinthians 10:4, the Foundation in 1Corinthians 3:11. (2.) The poetry of the Old Testament associated the idea of the Rock with the greatness and steadfastness of God, not with that of a man [Deuteronomy 32:4; Deuteronomy 32:18; 2Samuel 22:3; 2Samuel 23:3; Psalm 18:2; Psalm 18:31; Psalm 18:46; Isaiah 17:10; Habakkuk 1:12 (Hebrew)]. (3.) As with the words, which in their form present a parallel to these, “Destroy this temple” (John 2:19), so here, we may believe the meaning to have been indicated by significant look or gesture. The Rock on which the Church was to be built was Himself, in the mystery of that union of the Divine and the Human which had been the subject of St. Peter’s confession. Had Peter himself been meant, we may. add, the simpler form, “Thou art Peter, and on thee will I build My Church,” would have been clearer and more natural. As it is, the collocation suggests an implied contrast: “Thou art the Rock-Apostle; and yet not the Rock on which the Church is to be built. It is enough for thee to have found the Rock, and to have built on the one Foundation.”
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beloved57
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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death even while they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 so salvation is by Christ death alone, apart from mans faith and works !
Interplanner
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Yes, Christ's acts alone and faith alone are a pair or else they don't exist. As soon as the 'alone' is removed from Christ's acts, faith is mixed with effort.
The crowd asked Jesus 'what do we do to do the work of God?'
A: 'The work of God is to believe upon Him whom He sent.'
That was meant to generate other kinds of actions than the ones they were doing there.
The crowd asked Jesus 'what do we do to do the work of God?'
A: 'The work of God is to believe upon Him whom He sent.'
That was meant to generate other kinds of actions than the ones they were doing there.
Cross Reference
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Spoken like the obedient lapsarian you are.
God's Truth
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Jesus saves us all on his own, and he chooses those he saves. Jesus chooses those who obey him. That is what the Bible says.
It is never ever a wrong time to obey God. How do you get it is then called a bad effort if one obeys to be saved?
Jesus is the Way, and we have to do what the Way says to get to the Father.
Cruciform
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Is the man "saved" if the benefits of Christ's death are not applied to him?
beloved57
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I don't know about your religion, but no. However in my religion every one that my Christ died for have the benefits instantly applied to them, that is why they are reconciled to God while they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 when others are enemies under condemnation and wrath Jn 3:18,36!