popsthebuilder
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Indeed, but that isn't the man Jesus; but the ascended Lord....the Spirit.
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Christians worship Christ; JW's do not!
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Just a yes or no, Meshak, it's easier to type yes or no than it is to say "I already answered this." And I'd rather not have to go looking for your answer.
Meshak, do believers spend the rest of eternity with God?
My questions are meant to establish the basics of what you believe. Let's walk before we run.
I'm asking you to find out what you believe. I already know what I believe. Again, I want to walk before we run.
Again, my question is this:
Do believers live with God for the rest of eternity?
popsthebuilder
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I promise not to repeat my questions as long as you answer them with appropriate answers.
Ok, so, we've established that believers live forever.
So, aside from them believing, what makes them any different from those who don't believe? In other words, is there any difference between believers and non-believers that would prevent non-believers from existing eternally (again, aside from them simply not believing)?
popsthebuilder
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Your point?
Preeminence shows order....we know the order; first.
First what?
Born
Begotten
Friuts
All of GOD. none eternal with GOD. even a word is spoken and spirit is breathed.
All of GOD.
none all GOD.....except the Spirit. I will not limit the capacity of the Spirit of GOD. The Spirit that filled Jesus the Holy Temple of GOD.
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popsthebuilder
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Telling what something doesn't mean doesn't help the conversation Pops.
I asked what it does mean.
God's Truth
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It did this time.
Another way to ask my most recent question:
What allows believers to live for eternity, instead of slowly dying/ceasing to exist?
popsthebuilder
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But I know what you are getting at which is exactly what I said it wasn't.
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popsthebuilder
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You seem to be conflating the death of the body with the destruction of the soul or spirit.
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Ephesians 2:8-9
popsthebuilder
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Ephesians 2: 10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11. Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15. Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17. And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21. In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22. In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Does GOD make HIS abode in any place that isn't pure.
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6days
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David was called firstborn. It was a title...nothing at all to do with order. (He was last born in his family)
No, you don't know what I'm getting at, or else you wouldn't have given that answer.
No, I'm not.
Pops, are humans (if not their physical bodies, then their spirit/souls) designed to exist for eternity?
glorydaz
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I'm saved already. My "concern" is that the unsaved get saved. Which is why I spend time trying to show you unbelievers the Truth of the Deity of Christ Jesus....without which you cannot so much as HEAR the Gospel of Salvation.
Believers do not waste time boasting of what they do to "serve" the Lord. Boasting is excluded by the law of faith.
Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
glorydaz
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And you can't see that Christ is in God, and those who believe are created IN CHRIST JESUS when they believe....not when they obey. :chew:
John 14:11, Eph. 2:10 Eph. 2:8-9
And you can't see that the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of Christ dwell in those who BELIEVE.
You see many things, but none of them are truth. They are half truths...therefore full lies.
The things that are truth, you don't see. You could, but your pride has blinded you to the truth.
See how that works?
glorydaz
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No, the Word was God and with God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
The verses that follow make it quite clear THE WORD became flesh as Jesus Christ, the Son. You don't see the Spirit there anywhere. Try reading what is actually written...not what your old mentor planted in your brain. :readthis:
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
And His name is called the Word of God. If you continue in your blindness you will die in your sins. :nono: