Why would any conservative support Donald Trump?
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We already covered that. Supporting Cruz would also stick a fork in the eye of the RNC.
theophilus
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By me...
...I loathe Trump with a ferocious loathing.
...I loathe Trump with a ferocious loathing.
While Trump may be "likely" to do those things (as you say), Cruz is far stronger on all 3 of those issues.
What's not to loath? I am seriously amazed that so many *conservatives* are supporting this guy after years of speaking out against everything this man represents.
I do not think those who vote for him care about this/ how can they care about it and then vote for him? I voted in Alabama for Cruz, and trump won big. Why did he win? Cruz is better Christian, and there are many Christians in Alabama?
Maybe they think anyone who will npt outright deny the likes of David duke, is not someone who will bend to political preasure? Cruz is the better man, but Cruz is a politician; he cannot alienate everyone, and today, most Republicans are going to shy from human rights issues.
I do not think all those who voted for him are vicious 'racists', but I do think they are against the idea all cultures are equal and all religions are equal. The extreme 'equal' position is not the same as being a white supremacist, it is more like being "American First'.
Donald trump is all these things, wish-washy, self-centered, me first' 'the ends justify the means/ heck, if he had to be like Huey P. long to get elected he would! Why people vote for him? many are feeling the main political ideology is leftist 'movie star' ideology and they are sick of it. So, they do not care if he was, or is whatever, as long as he fights for himself, as that is what many people wish they could do.
So, you think these policies are a good idea, but you can't make a rational case for them, even to a fellow-conservative?
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ClimateSanity
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For what exactly .Please explain.
You think so?
Look, I would much rather have Cruz, just on human merit alone he is the better man.
I do not think most of these voters think you are right.
Trumps voters think he will put America first and fight against foreigners, no matter how much the mainstream is opposed to this so called 'racism".
They do not think Cruz will sacrifice himself politically for his own pleasure, and they think Trump will do it, not for them, just to show the mainstream it can be done. Those who are voting for him think they will benefit from his own selfish desires.
And then Hillary will, win. this us the shame of it. there are more who think the current ideology is correct, than those who oppose it/
Cruz is more compromising; he must be as the act of being political is being to compromise.
But he does not really care about it. This man has so much wealth he thinks he is a god. Look at his comments, "they will get along with me, or else!"
Precisely ... he doesn't care about it. By it ... I mean the country and our people. He likes the idea of being the most powerful man in the United States. The guy is an immoral egomaniac.
ClimateSanity
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Obamacare and the rise of Isis are two huge differences.
You are right. The people did not choose Pat Buchanan; he was the last to hold the "America first' position.
These Trump voters are fed up with politics; however, that is what we have, politics.
Arthur Brain
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Exactly. The guy's neither a liberal or conservative but simply a one prat ego trip...
I think it's the tough-guy persona. It appeals to a lot of people who see Obama as weak, and who crave someone who seems tougher, in the belief that somehow the US will be better off.
Interestingly enough, the attack ads are starting to appear (of Trump's THIRD wife, Melania). I have never known of another candidate whose First Lady has a history of being anything but ... or a presidential candidate who was in Playboy Magazine.
Nice family values.
There is a different between being tough VS being a bully. Donald is just belligerent.
ClimateSanity
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He isn't cowed and bullied by the media. He will not apologize for being politically correct. Thanks mistaken for being a tough guy. He just isn't afraid of anyone in the sense they can hurt him politically. He says exactly what he thinks. That isn't being tough; it's being courageous. Most politicians watch every word they say for fear of being interrogated by the media. Once they get you to apologize for something, there is blood in the water and your days are over politically. In other sections of our culture, if you have any game or influence at all, one mispoken word can get you fired or your product boycotted. These are the acts of a bully. There are scads of them around in the media.
In short, one big reason I and many others support Trump is that he has no fear of these bullies and refuses to be silenced by political correctness. This is pleasing because it holds the prospect of one day getting rid of political correctness.