Why would any conservative support Donald Trump?

[Nick M]

So I ask..... why would a conservative support Donald Trump?? :idunno:

Because he is not a re-publican. They were given a large majority, then a larger majority to stop Obama and deport him. Instead, Boehner gave Obama everything he wanted. After whining for a week, then passing it. It's that simple. And, he was not a Canadian until a few years ago.

 

[LightSon]

[MENTION=10856]serpentdove[/MENTION],

And this country will get the president it deserves...much like Saul and Israel.

Yes, and If the GOP has dissipated enough to nominate Trump, we may well deserve another President Clinton.

 

[Jer17.5Ps50-Mt543]

Let me first say that I am NOT a Trump supporter. I voted for Cruz and personally believe that Cruz would make a terrific president. The answer to your question is that I am in the minority among conservatives in that belief.


Clete

How can you say that?

Dump got a big % of voters in AZ but he still hasn't gotten over 50% anywhere and most places he only got an avg of about 37%. Some places he got only about 20% or LESS (KS, WY, UT, i believe)

There is something wrong with the way the system is set up.. this 1237 delegate thing. There is something very wrong because, again, Dump has not gotten 50% much less over 50% in any state, yet Cruz has, and in more than one state. There should be some delegate benefit to that?? The 1237 figure represents 50% plus one (delegate). It should be at least 55% or more

the system needs some adjustments

 

[Jer17.5Ps50-Mt543]

Let me first say that I am NOT a Trump supporter. I voted for Cruz and personally believe that Cruz would make a terrific president.
Clete

Dump is not a politician????

huh?

He wrote the book on politics. He supported liberals (bought them) b/c he was ambitious, pathologically ambitious..

and now u say he is not politician???

 

[kmoney]

I think conservatives are being stubborn and doing nothing more than acting like the Left. I see mostly petty or obsolete reasons which conservatives consistently count and recount to avoid supporting Trump.

Petty and obsolete reasons such as?

And I imagine that most Rs will still end up voting for Trump in the general.

 

[Crucible]

spoken like a true liberal--of probable age 30 or younger

Why don't you come off your tower, put down your amplifier, and suck on a cough drop before you throw out your lung.

 

[Nick M]

Yes, and If the GOP has dissipated enough to nominate Trump, we may well deserve another President Clinton.

You are an idiot. Everything you know is wrong. Hurry up, or you will miss the short bus.

 

[Nick M]

And I imagine that most Rs will still end up voting for Trump in the general.

It won't be as big as Reagan in 84 (49 states) but it will be decisive.

 

[Nick M]

There are two things that Trump has going for him...

1. He is not a politician.

2. He is not politically correct.

Resting in Him,
Clete

On national TV on the Republican sponsored debate with their anchor to tow the line (she did) he insulted her and then later called her a bimbo for the whole world to see. People on the right are tired of Fox News and their march to the left and being told to stay away from him.

 

[patrick jane]

How can you say that?

Dump got a big % of voters in AZ but he still hasn't gotten over 50% anywhere and most places he only got an avg of about 37%. Some places he got only about 20% or LESS (KS, WY, UT, i believe)

There is something wrong with the way the system is set up.. this 1237 delegate thing. There is something very wrong because, again, Dump has not gotten 50% much less over 50% in any state, yet Cruz has, and in more than one state. There should be some delegate benefit to that?? The 1237 figure represents 50% plus one (delegate). It should be at least 55% or more

the system needs some adjustments

:allsmile::allsmile::allsmile:

 

[Nihilo]

it's not a great message to send to one of our largest trading partners and one of two nations we border.

We'd be better off deporting citizens, if that's your pain point. Undocumented immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes, violent or otherwise. Of course, there are people who come here to commit crimes and do harm, but most of the people who come here illegally just want to work a job no one else wants, and maybe send some remittance back home.

If Mexico bulks up their police forces to solve their frightening organized crime problem, then I don't think a wall is a good idea. But that's not what the situation is down there, at least not yet. I think this is the only message we'd be sending: bulk up your police forces and eliminate the organized crime. Till you get your act together, we're going to go ahead a build this here wall. You understand, I'm sure.

 

[ClimateSanity]

Why don't you come off your tower, put down your amplifier, and suck on a cough drop before you throw out your lung.

Good zinger and imagery.

 

[Clete]

:up:


And I think you laid out some pretty good reasons for why Trump is getting so much support, but that support is more in spite of conservatism rather than because of it.

I disagree with this.

While I'd very much rather see Cruz win, I'm not afraid of Trump. Is he a liberal? That depends on your definition of the term. I don't believe he's the leftist that Knight seems to believe him to be (based on what he said in the opening post). I think he actually wants to be president and actually does hold the positions he's currently claiming to hold. Him being a closeted liberal makes no sense given his opposition on the Democrat side. He could just as easily have squashed Hillary Clinton in the primary as he's squashed more than a dozen Republicans had he really been a leftist and he wouldn't have to be constantly explaining away past comments.

Further, looking ahead to the general election, if its between Trump and anyone else on the Democrat side, which would you rather have in office. The one who is definitely a socialist who hates the founding principles of this country or the one who might or might not be somewhat left of center?

That's an easy question for me to answer.

Resting in Him,
Clete

 

[Clete]

How can you say that?

Dump got a big % of voters in AZ but he still hasn't gotten over 50% anywhere and most places he only got an avg of about 37%. Some places he got only about 20% or LESS (KS, WY, UT, i believe)

There is something wrong with the way the system is set up.. this 1237 delegate thing. There is something very wrong because, again, Dump has not gotten 50% much less over 50% in any state, yet Cruz has, and in more than one state. There should be some delegate benefit to that?? The 1237 figure represents 50% plus one (delegate). It should be at least 55% or more

the system needs some adjustments

The fact is that Trump has won more than anyone else and that he'll likely continue to do so. That's life. The more the Republicans whine and complain about it, the more support Trump gets.

It wouldn't make any difference how you wanted to fiddle around with the way the system works. If you made it 100% about the popular vote in each state and Trump was still be winning, then you'd want to change it so that the primary is decided on a national basis rather than state by state.
The system is what it is and it was intentionally designed to dilute the deciding power of the popular vote and for good reason in my view. If this thing was decided based strictly on the popular vote, Trump would have had it clinched a long time ago.

 

[Clete]

Dump is not a politician????

huh?

He wrote the book on politics. He supported liberals (bought them) b/c he was ambitious, pathologically ambitious..

and now u say he is not politician???

He's never run for office before. Never held anything that resembles a political office and doesn't (so far) take money from lobbyists.

He's NOT a politician in the normal sense of the word and EVERYONE knows it.

 

[Nick M]

All the Republicans and their public relations pieces saying they will vote for Mrs Clinton shows their hand. The Republicans are in trouble because they are not far enough to the right. Despite the claims of purexcrement, the horn, barbie, rusha and others.

 

[Nihilo]

All the Republicans and their public relations pieces saying they will vote for Mrs Clinton shows their hand.

And that hand is: "We're drunk. Or at least we're acting drunk."

The Republicans are in trouble because they are not far enough to the right.

You must mean the voters and not the candidates, because the more rightward leaning candidates are not doing that well.

 

[annabenedetti]

All the Republicans and their public relations pieces saying they will vote for Mrs Clinton shows their hand. The Republicans are in trouble because they are not far enough to the right. Despite the claims of purexcrement, the horn, barbie, rusha and others.

The Barbarian hasn't posted in over six months. I'm sure he'd be pleased to know you're still thinking about him.

And if I changed your name to something less than polite the way you did with PureX's, it would easy enough to come up with something that rhymes with Nick.

 

[Rusha]

All the Republicans and their public relations pieces saying they will vote for Mrs Clinton shows their hand. The Republicans are in trouble because they are not far enough to the right. Despite the claims of purexcrement, the horn, barbie, rusha and others.

I have said no such thing ... you seem to believe that lashing out in anger and intentionally misrepresenting others is a satisfactory substitution for an argument. lain:

 

[Nick M]

because the more rightward leaning candidates are not doing that well.

Speaking of drunk....