Yep!
Why would any conservative support Donald Trump?
- Thread starter Nathon Detroit
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Yep!
Tis better to vote for Trump than see the "Crooked Clintons" back in office.
he has said it many times.
You have to admit, sometimes you are a little goofy. You have said that anyone who cares about conservative values needs to vote Republican. Now, it sounds like you think Trump is such a rare breed; perhaps he is a secret agent for the Democratic party who came in from the night to sabotage the Republican party?
You never said this, I have just now, although I am not convinced. The point is you have not given a convincing reason, as to why you will not vote for Trump, is based in anything not contradictory to what you have been saying all along?
He's also demonstrably big on actually getting impressive structures built. It's not like he's saying that we're going to put a man on the Moon.
We've tried not having a wall. It's not working.
Statistics indicate what we would expect, that people don't tend to use a longgun (shotgun or rifle) nearly as frequently as a handgun. Snubnosed revolvers are among the guns that are plentiful, and are used for suicides and crime.
I'm not hesitant about trying it. I'm just not arrogant.
I'm not hesitant, I'm just not arrogant.
The crime in and coming from Mexico is a known fact, don't be dense.
No, it's not.
Why are you so contentious. We need to analyze meaningful data and make a reasoned decision about whether or not a policy is in the public interest or not. We can't just have our opinion and force it on everybody else, especially not in spite of evidence that may suggest the opposite of our present opinion on the matter. It's scientific to analyze the results of an experiment. It's pig headed and arrogant to order the troops to charge a hill that isn't worth taking.
What are you even talking about.
In order to participate as a supplier in a market, there are regulatory requirements. Every nation has them. And, separately, rich, successful companies have the luxury to hire expert business consultants to help them further in their endeavors. Large companies have advantages in both of these areas, and it's fundamentally unfair that SMEs must devote so much of their resources as a percentage on meeting these requirements and hiring these consultants. I would like to see government helping SMEs to grow into large enterprises by subsidizing independent professional consultancy and/or independent professional firms that assist SMEs in meeting regulator requirements.
You'll note that I accept the regulatory requirements as for the good of the public---I don't agree that bars should be lower, just that we should help everybody get over them so that SMEs can focus more on providing their goods or services safely, and environmentally and socially consciously.
True. handguns, pistols and small revolvers are used in most crimes and in suicide. Rifles are the least used when we control for type of crime and rule out some rifles. Shotguns are many used in crime when they are short.
Right. And the SCOTUS has ruled that short-barreled ("sawed-off") shotguns are not guns protected by the Second Amendment, since only firearms of military significance are protected, and no military ever uses short-barreled shotguns.
Or tiny handguns.
He actually didn't build most of them. He just licensed his name. A lot of the ventures he actually entered have failed.
The objection that I have isn't that we shouldn't build a wall because it's impossible, or even too difficult. The objection I have is that we shouldn't build a wall because it's impractical, wouldn't solve the problem, and it's a distraction from things we probably should be a lot more worried about.
How are you judging that? The net migration is actually out of the country. And since a fairly small percentage of people actually just run across the border, it seems kinda irrelevant.
this is true
He has plenty of experience building things, big things. And that does distinguish him among all the other candidates, so coming from him, it's easier to believe that he'd be able to actually do it. He's jumped through some of the toughest hoops to build what he has built, and those are the skills and experiences that anybody needs to do what he's saying he'll do.
He's credible in this regard.
But he has not failed to build.
Fair enough. I think it's worth a try.
It's the violent crime that's in view when I say that the wall is worth a try.
LightSon
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'tis a puzzlement.
I guess I don't see the relevance. But ok.
Neither have I, if that's the standard.
It's a very expensive try. And it's not a great message to send to one of our largest trading partners and one of two nations we border.
We'd be better off deporting citizens, if that's your pain point. Undocumented immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes, violent or otherwise. Of course, there are people who come here to commit crimes and do harm, but most of the people who come here illegally just want to work a job no one else wants, and maybe send some remittance back home.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...igrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/
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And I think you laid out some pretty good reasons for why Trump is getting so much support, but that support is more in spite of conservatism rather than because of it.
Jer17.5Ps50-Mt543
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yeh people talk about how Dump gets all these people in the R party who didn't normally vote. But what good is that if a bigger number, or even an equal # leave, or refuse to vote for Dump?
Fox News is SO dishonest. They plug Dumb.. give him millions in free advertising. They don't want Cruz and you can just SOOO tell. They dont want him, i am sure, b/c he would cut out all the tax loopholes for the wealthy. Fox is a big business, so we know why they don't want that
pathetic.. how so many vote self-interest and self-interest alone
Jer17.5Ps50-Mt543
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spoken like a true liberal--of probable age 30 or younger
Jer17.5Ps50-Mt543
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yeh, for sure b/c that "man" (using the term loosely) is about as far from a Republican, as far from being Christian as you can possibly get (without being in prison, that is--and there may be many in prison who are closer 2 being both)
Dump financially supported the corruption in DC!!! He voted for Carter over Reagan! He supported Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the Gang of 8 (the hypocricy!!)
And people think he is some kind of outsider/crusader who will... what?? make things better for them ??? No, Dump is running to make things better for himself. We all see how the president and his cabinet can get away with all kinds of violations of the law, which of course the "ordinary" people cannot get away with. DT needs the protection of the office. He is being sued by workers who weren't paid.. He is in court on fraud charges.. He was CONVICTED of conspiracy to hire illegals...
Yes, he needs the protection afforded to all those who obtain the White House
disgusting