Of course being forced to undergo humiliation and being called a freak would have worked wonders would it? Has it occurred to you that it's people like you who would force vulnerable kids into such "therapy" who are actually to blame? What am I saying, of course it hasn't.
Your claim that thousands and thousands of people have been "cured" of homosexuality is supported by what exactly?
Keep banging on that tired drum as much as you want. The opinion of someone who has no problems with assaulting children means squat.
GFR7 speaks for himself - as does Wiz you crank.
Thank you, Arthur, for your reasonableness and your decency. :thumb:
(Notice how Art pulls a play straight out of the LGBTQueer handbook and associates ALL reparative therapy with rare incidents where those suffering from same sex desires are demeaned, hoping that will change their homosexual desires).
Yes Art, we Christians are constantly told by your fellow LGBTQueer/sexual anarchists that we are responsible for the death of these sexually confused children and teenagers, not the perverts who indoctrinate them.
Testimony by those who have left homosexual behavior (and often times desires) behind. I've post numerous articles and linked numerous websites showing the testimonies of these brave people, people who are constantly harassed by you and your fellow homosexualists because they did something that you and others say can't be done.
(So much for GFR7 giving homosexualist/sexual anarchist Art Brain a piece of his social conservative mind).
And? ........ SO? ....... You big dummy, this in no wise means I approve of, or support, the transgender movement's bearing down on our culture and our vulnerable youth.aCultureWarrior said:Yet when you and I were having a discussion about transsexuals back on page 229, you wrote the following:
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
With the amount of drag queens and transsexuals you've obviously been around in your illustrious career as a homosexual journalist, I'll take your word for it.
Obviously it's not a moral issue with you, you're against it because these sick individuals can't really come across physically as a woman?...
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4125042&postcount=3421
I really mean no disrespect to that lesbian couple I posted - am just trying to bug aCW :chuckle:Instead of trying to shock people by posting pictures of homos hugging and kissing, why don't you how an unleavened meal and wine on one side of a table and then have a lobster in a dish on the other side?
Or better yet, why not show an ancient Hebrew on one side of a couple and a Samaritan on the other side?
Is Luke's interpretation of Jesus's Good Samaritan parable REALLY about how to be a good neighbor?
Not really.
The Samaritan was the illegitimate Jew. They were seen as unclean strangers and their temple was on some mountain top and not in Jerusalem where the normative Jews gathered. To preserve the original bite of Jesus's little story, today it might be called the Parable of the Sweaty Black Homo with AIDS.
Jesus's audience could no more envision the Samaritan as "good" any more than they could visualize loving their enemies. Jesus was saying that divine help can come in many forms and we must be human enough to accept that help regardless of where it comes from.
Remember, too, the two religious leaders that met the man beaten and robbed in the ditch very carefully crossed to the other side of the road to avoid this unclean immigrant stranger!
"Them" being 1% of the US population who engage in an unnatural disease ridden behavior, a behavior that was criminalized for 2,000 years in Judeo-Christianized countries throughout the world?
How can you tell "them" to shut up while leaving "them" alone?
(Because fighting evil is bad).
They're sick degenerates that are crying out for help. What's wrong with helping them by once again legislating righteous laws and returning to cultural mores' that don't glorify filth?
A: When you first brought up the topic of "reparative therapy" centres you had absolutely no clue what took place when asked about it.
B: How are you in any position to say that this was a 'rare instance' in light of your ignorance on the subject? Apparently that is the norm, not an exception to the rule. It makes sense in light of that that laws were brought in to prevent kids from being forcibly made to endure that garbage as it's tantamount to nothing short of emotional abuse. If you support that then that makes you responsible so suck it up.
Ah, now it's behaviour ahead of desires. Telling.
I still don't know what exactly takes place inside reparative therapy sessions as I've never been in one, but I'll guarantee you this (based on what I've read from NARTH articles and the personal testimonies of ex homosexuals on the internet) is that shaming people (who like GFR7 were exposed to unmentionable acts that children should never be exposed to) into leaving homosexual behavior and often times desires behind isn't a tool used by legitimate Christian pastors or professional reparative therapy psychologists.
Because I've studied and documented throughout this 3 part thread the lies and deceit that monsters like Dan Savage and his fellow LGBTQueer activists use make to make certain that sexually confused children and teens can't get the help that their so desperately crying out for.
What's really "telling" Art is how you don't support these brave people who have left homosexuality behind, even though they're constantly told by a pro homosexual culture that they can't.
150 EXhomosexual video testimonies
This a growing video anthology of living witnesses —representing many nations— who have left homosexuality, bisexuality and lesbianism to follow Jesus Christ
http://www.gcmwatch.com/exhomosexual-videos
Watch all 150 of the videos Art and get back to the followers of this thread and tell us that these brave souls are a bunch of liars.
Good, I wouldn't want to besmirch other religions with your narrow minded version of Christianity.Good, because the doctrines of pagan religions aren't represented in this thread, at least not by me.
What Al said was that your interpretation of and cherry picked adherence to an ancient scripture is not fit for purpose unless you perhaps happen to be a theocratic tyrant? :think:(What Al just said in a roundabout way is that he can't find anything in The Holy Bible that promotes or accepts homosexual acts).
The "beauty" of your holy scripture aCW is that its ambiguity and antiquity can mean so many different things to different people. If it were clear and unequivocal then it wouldn't be a lot of use to all the fringe nutters around like you.That's why Holy Scripture is so beautiful: it helps the morally lost find their way.Perhaps we are all sexually confuses to some extent aCW, but IIRC you are the one who seems to be able to choose your sexual preference, not me.
It's great for gay people who simply want to be accepted for what they are. The body count for straight people with STIs is also rising, but you don't want to talk about that apparently.We've seen how great it's been for those that engage in homosexual behavior since homosexuality was decriminalized (the body count just keeps rising).If you really do think you are actually helping gay people by criminalising them then perhaps you are even more confused than I thought.
I'm rather sure you have no great interest in the mental health of gay people aCW. What matters to you is that sexually confused young people remain confused if they are gay and forced into going against their nature, or else face rejection and discrimination. It doesn't seem to bother you any if some see suicide as a reasonable way out.I see that when the topic turns to talking about dead kids (i.e. morally confused children and teenagers who take their own lives), all of your allies (annatebbenetti, Art Brain, the barbarian and GFR7/WizardofOz) seemed to have abandoned the thread.
I guess the realities of the homosexual lifestyle and the agenda that comes with it aren't too pretty.
I have no answer, only a statement. It is your generation who was so tolerant and it effects your generation far more than mine. I see why you may have a feeling of responsibility, while I see your generation as having torn down too many of our core values, and now it is your problem; it does not enter my mind much and is so far removed from my consciousness, I hardly ever think about it.
Funny that because the institute in question was legitimate and that 'technique' was part of the 'therapy'. I take it then that you don't support such abusive methods? If so then for once good on you. Not so much if you still think kids should be forced to go to such places when by your own admission you don't even know what goes on.
If teens want to seek help because they're troubled then I wouldn't wish to stop them, although I certainly wouldn't recommend institutions like the above.
Hey, if they feel compelled to try and either lead a chaste life or somehow rid themselves of desires then good luck to em'.
I'm rather sure you have no great interest in the mental health of gay people aCW. What matters to you is that sexually confused young people remain confused if they are gay and forced into going against their nature, or else face rejection and discrimination. It doesn't seem to bother you any if some see suicide as a reasonable way out.
I'm certain that those brave souls throughout the world who are trying to do something about their homosexual desires can feel your 'warm supportive vibes' over the internet Art.
Thanks for stopping by and I won't keep you any longer from your ever so "telling" thread
"Who here chose to be heterosexual?"
Likewise I'm sure children who are physically assaulted by pastors can feel the same in turn, except one of us isn't trying to impede others from doing what they feel the need to and the other has no issue with violence towards kids provided it's done as a 'wake up call'.
It has been rather telling yes thanks.
(Because that's what homosexualists do: compare a Christian pastor giving a smart aleck Christian teenager a much needed wakeup call to the disease, misery and death of those who engage in homosexuality and the culture that goes along with it).
BTW Art, would you link the information about the reparative therapy group that you were talking about in an earlier post. I must have missed that information when you first posted it.
I'll try and link you to the program in due course.
I'll look forward to it (gee, I wonder if Art just used the same old tired lies that the LGBTQueer movement uses without doing any research on the subject himself).
Here's a link to the article about the program:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-gay-cures-in-new-channel-4-show-9082429.html
Here's a link to the trailer. Unfortunately I can't as yet find a link to the whole thing but I'm sure you can manage that if you're actually interested in what goes on...