The Trinity

[God's Truth]

You flatter yourself, gt. Usually we wait for others to flatter us.



Just like the Pharisees and Sadducees. Isn't it wonderful how the Lord accepted their obedience and works. They even boasted to Him. What was our Lord's response? Vipers, hypocrites, blind guiding the blind, etc.



The ONLY one saying that they have to follow the Law is gt.



I was NOT saved because I did anything. God chose to save me. He caught me by surprise and what a wonderful surprise it was. Eternity will not be long enough to say Thank you Lord for saving me.



You and I are still sinners and we will die sinners. We are NOT habitual sinners but sinners we are. It matters not that you say you are not a sinner, you are. It matters not if I say I am not a sinner, I am.

I am a saved sinner nevertheless.



God is awesome! In that we have no disagreement.



You are still in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John working trying to OBEY what does not belong to you and you REJECT what does belong to you by GIFT. You have not graduated to the Risen Lord's face-to-face first-hand account of God's Salvation by purely grace through faith.

YOU, or I, are NOT SAVED by OBEDIENCE, we are SAVED by GRACE through FAITH. FAITH in WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did.

The Jews REJECTED God's GIFT then, and they continue to REJECT God's GIFT now --- WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did --- but, oh, do they work to OBEY the Law.

Like David said:
You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. (Ps. 51:16)

Sacrifice and offering you did not desire-- but my ears you have opened -- burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require. (Ps. 40:6)

Why do you bring up the Pharisees? The Pharisees prove you wrong. They are the ones who did not obey and repent of their sins.

As for you cutting off Jesus' words in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John---Jesus' words are forever and to all.

 

[God's Truth]

Correct.



It wasn't David's OBEDIENCE that saved him. It was God's GRACE through FAITH.

David obeyed everything that God told him to do except in the case of Bathsheba's husband.

David was sorry for those sins and repented and asked God for forgiveness. Those are things you go against.

God said David was a man after His heart because David did what God said to do.

 

[Right Divider]

David obeyed everything that God told him to do except in the case of Bathsheba's husband.

God said David was a man after His heart because David did what God said to do.

So God told David to commit adultery?

You have issues with Bible facts.

 

[God's Truth]

David was really sorry for his sins, and he knew, without a shadow of a doubt, that no sacrifice (even if available) was going to cut it.

You are getting closer. There, was, no, sacrifice, for murder and adultery.

 

[God's Truth]

So God told David to commit adultery?

You have issues with Bible facts.

Did you not just read where I said EXCEPT in the case of Bathsheba's husband?!

 

[Right Divider]

Did you not just read where I said EXCEPT in the case of Bathsheba's husband?!

Yes, I did read that and that was murder....

 

[God's Truth]

Yes, I did read that and that was murder....

I was speaking scripture to you and you didn't recognize the scripture I was speaking because you don't know enough and are quick to condemn me.

Read the scripture and then tell me you did not argue against it:

1 Kings 15:5 For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not failed to keep any of the LORD's commands all the days of his life--except in the case of Uriah the Hittite.


Do you not know that Uriah was Bathsheba's husband?

 

[God's Truth]

Salvation by grace through faith comes FIRST, then living it comes after.

My salvation is completely secure because the LORD Jesus Christ did all that was needed to save me.

You have to be a servant to the Lord to be an obedient son.

You have to obey God and no one is saved until they are acceptable to God and Jesus tells us how to be acceptable.

 

[Right Divider]

I was speaking scripture to you and you didn't recognize the scripture I was speaking because you don't know enough and are quick to condemn me.

Read the scripture and then tell me you did not argue against it:

1 Kings 15:5 For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not failed to keep any of the LORD's commands all the days of his life--except in the case of Uriah the Hittite.

Do you not know that Uriah was Bathsheba's husband?

I did not see you quote that scripture or I would not have complained.

 

[God's Truth]

I did not see you quote that scripture or I would not have complained.

You still miss the point. The point is that you don't know scripture well enough and you shouldn't be condemning me.

 

[Right Divider]

You have to be a servant to the Lord to be an obedient son.

You have to obey God and no one is saved until they are acceptable to God and Jesus tells us how to be acceptable.

Nobody can be a servant of righteousness until they are saved.

Rom 6:18 (AKJV/PCE)​

(6:18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. ​

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[Right Divider]

You still miss the point. The point is that you don't know scripture well enough and you shouldn't be condemning me.

You should not talk, with you knowing nothing about the future kingdom of Israel when the LORD returns.

 

[God's Truth]

Nobody can be a servant of righteousness until they are saved.

Rom 6:18 (AKJV/PCE)​

(6:18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. ​

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Our obedience leads us to righteousness see Romans 6:16, and after we are saved we continue to be righteous.

 

[God's Truth]

You should not talk, with you knowing nothing about the future kingdom of Israel when the LORD returns.

I do know, but you don't listen.

 

[Right Divider]

Our obedience leads us to righteousness see Romans 6:16, and after we are saved we continue to be righteous.

You take that verse OUT of its CONTEXT like you do MOST of the scripture that you abuse.

Rom 6:22-23 (AKJV/PCE)​

(6:22) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. (6:23) For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Read the entire passage and believe it ALL!

Nobody can become a servant to God until they are already made free from sin. That happens the moment that we trust Christ for the forgiveness of our sins.

 

[Right Divider]

I do know, but you don't listen.

You just didn't listen.

 

[God's Truth]

You take that verse OUT of its CONTEXT like you do MOST of the scripture that you abuse.

Rom 6:22-23 (AKJV/PCE)​

(6:22) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. (6:23) For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Read the entire passage and believe it ALL!

Nobody can become a servant to God until they are already made free from sin. That happens the moment that we trust Christ for the forgiveness of our sins.

You are the one who does not read the whole passage.

Jesus says there are people on the side of truth and they are the ones who come to him to be saved. He tells us how to have a good heart, and how to be the one in whom he lives.

 

[God's Truth]

You just didn't listen.

God comes to save and help those who gladly do right.

The Holy Spirit is our Helper.

If you do not do anything right, then you wouldn't need a helper because you would be dead and there would be no helper for you.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Please reread my reply because you quoted me during my making adjustments to what I wanted to say to you.
You gave scriptures of people giving defective animals to God, they were not giving their best. They were not obeying God and honoring Him with their best. They were giving God blind and diseased animals.


Why are you saying such things to me as you did in that last sentence?

It was poorly worded, and borderline contentious. I had just woke up. Not an excuse.

I agree that they where to give their best.


Was Abraham circumcised at age 99 or 100?

I'm sure you know of and can produce the verses showing that the sacrifices weren't pleasing, nor the offerings. I'm also sure you can locate the verses that insinuate that the Jew was wrong due to literal or carnal understanding of the things of GOD as opposed to a spiritual one.

I apologize for the remark made in my previous post.

peace


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[God's Truth]

It was poorly worded, and borderline contentious. I had just woke up. Not an excuse.

I agree that they where to give their best.


Was Abraham circumcised at age 99 or 100?

I'm sure you know of and can produce the verses showing that the sacrifices weren't pleasing, nor the offerings. I'm also sure you can locate the verses that insinuate that the Jew was wrong due to literal or carnal understanding of the things of GOD as opposed to a spiritual one.

I apologize for the remark made in my previous post.

peace


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Thanks for the apology.

I am sure you know how to look up whether it was at age 99 or 100, right?Is that your way of still being contentious and making your apology a lie?

There were Jews who were righteous and gave good sacrifices.

What don't you get about the Jews who gave their least knew God wanted the best?

Where do you get that the Jew was wrong due to literal understanding?

People moved on in their life and forsake what God had said.

What is your point?

God gave the command for sacrifices.

God liked the sacrifices from the one who gave their best and were right in the heart; which was evident by the sacrifices they gave.

God wanted the people's best, but did not like it when they did not obey and gave their worst.

How do you ever get that the people misunderstood?

How do you get that Jesus would not have needed to come, as you stated in an earlier post?