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lifeisgood

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Lifeisgood is proven to be ignorant to God's Truth.



John 1:23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, "I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.'"

Luke 1:76 "And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Most High; For you will go on BEFORE THE LORD TO PREPARE HIS WAYS;

Not really. Sorry if I, lifeisgood, concentrated on only one verse. I'll stand on what I said though.

Ah. No! John the Baptist TESTIFIED of Jesus. John the Baptist came as a WITNESS. Nothing about John the baptizer prepared the way for Jesus, if that were true, then Jesus would have been subservient to John.
 
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lifeisgood

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Lifeisgood repeatedly shows her ignorance to God's Truth as she slanders me:



Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Genesis 26:4-5I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws."

NONE to do with The Law, which is what you were alluding to.
 

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ABRAHAM STILL HAD TO GET CIRCUMCISED EVEN THOUGH HE HAD FAITH BECAUSE JESUS DIDN'T come and shed his blood yet for the new covenant that would be based on faith.

BUT THE NEW COVENANT THAT WOULD COME MUCH LATER WOULD BE ABOUT THE BLOOD COVENANT OF JESUS AND FAITH THAT THAT BLOOD WASHED you clean.

BUT ALL JEWS HAD TO BE CIRCUMCISED in the FLESH because that was the covenant then or they would be cut off.
You are deaf, dumb and blind. Your ALL CAPS does not change the scripture.

Abraham was DECLARED righteous by FAITH.

Any good works come AFTER FAITH.

Nobody will be JUSTIFIED by their WORKS.... not even the great you.
 

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Ah, no. That is NOT what Jesus said.

The serpent of false doctrine mixed with God's Truth just reared her head.

Abraham SAW my day. Past tense. NOT when Jesus was dying on the Cross of Calvary. Abraham had ALREADY heard the Gospel of Salvation, BEFORE Jesus came to this earth, EXACTLY as Peter said that Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world.




Paul was referring to the Old Testament saints who looked forward to the coming Promise, Who is the Lord Jesus Christ, and what He would do at the Cross to Redeem mankind. They died without seeing the Promise.



Unquestionably, yes, based on FAITH proven by WORKS.



If they could have cleansed themselves, they would not have had to bring a sacrifice to the altar for the forgiveness of their sins.



It would have been nice had you provided the WHOLE verse, instead of only what YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE wants others to see.

And the Law is not of Faith (the two principles of Law and of Faith as a means of Justification are mutually exclusive of one another) : but, The man who does them shall live in them. (The Believer has a choice. He can attempt to live this life by either Law or Faith. He cannot live by both) .

If you, gt, only really believed God's Truth.



Has the reader seen the serpent of false doctrine mixed with God's Truth just reared her head.



And they told you, gt, all about them taking God's offering of protection for granted, right?



And they told you, gt, all about them taking God's offering of protection for granted, right?



Has the reader seen the serpent of false doctrine mixed with God's Truth just reared her head.



If you only read what you write, gt. I can only hope.

Has the reader seen the serpent of false doctrine mixed with God's Truth just reared her head.



Obviously, you don't gt, the Law WAS NEVER GIVEN to the lost sheep of the house of gt.



By giving scriptures that go against your false doctrine.



Has the reader seen the serpent of false doctrine mixed with God's Truth just reared her head. If you haven't I would suggest that you read really slowly.



Oh, yeah. Satan is trembling in his boots when he sees you coming, gt.



Yes, and NONE of them is YOU, gt.



Has the reader seen the serpent of false doctrine mixed with God's Truth just reared her head. If you haven't I would suggest that you read really slowly.

Jesus said, "I have NOT come to call the righteous, BUT sinners" (Mark 2:17)

Foolish woman! They were already His. He even breathed on them BEFORE He sent the Holy Spirit.



Here, full blown reared serpent head on the prowl.



Yes.



Full blown reared serpent head on the prowl.

Jesus said of those who TWIST God's Truth:
"You snakes! You brood of vipers!"

"You do not enter the Kingdom and you impede others from entering."

Your posts to me are so filled with slander, lies, ignorance, defiance to the truth and everything else evil. I will no longer reply to your posts and wade through your mud.
 

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You are deaf, dumb and blind. Your ALL CAPS does not change the scripture.

Abraham was DECLARED righteous by FAITH.

Any good works come AFTER FAITH.

Nobody will be JUSTIFIED by their WORKS.... not even the great you.

Abraham OBEYED God BEFORE the scripture speaking of Abraham's faith:

Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you;

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going.



And even after Abraham obeyed and had faith, his faith was TESTED:


James 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did


No one will be declared righteous by the work and seal of CIRCUMCISION:

Romans 4:10 In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before.
Romans 4:11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.


Paul is NOT saying we no longer have to work at obeying to be saved, Paul is saying we no longer have to do the ceremonial works of the law, like CIRCUMCISION. I just showed you scripture where Paul compares faith to CIRCUMCISION. Paul did not compare faith to OBEYING.
 

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Abraham OBEYED God BEFORE the scripture speaking of Abraham's faith:

Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you;

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going.
That does NOT change the FACT that God declared Abraham righteous BY FAITH and NOT by his obedience.

Rom 4:1-8 (AKJV/PCE)
(4:1) What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? (4:2) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God. (4:3) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. (4:4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (4:6) Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, (4:7) [Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. (4:8) Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

You just WILL NOT believe God's Word... GOD'S TRUTH!

And even after Abraham obeyed and had faith, his faith was TESTED:

James 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did

No one will be declared righteous by the work and seal of CIRCUMCISION:

Romans 4:10 In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before.
Romans 4:11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.

Paul is NOT saying we no longer have to work at obeying to be saved, Paul is saying we no longer have to do the ceremonial works of the law, like CIRCUMCISION. I just showed you scripture where Paul compares faith to CIRCUMCISION. Paul did not compare faith to OBEYING.
Obedience was NEVER the method by which God justified anyone. It was always BY FAITH.

I feel sad for you, because you and your obedience are going to the lake of fire.

P.S. You quote scripture with NO UNDERSTANDING of what it means.

P.P.S. the righteousness that he had by faith.
 

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That does NOT change the FACT that God declared Abraham righteous BY FAITH and NOT by his obedience.

Rom 4:1-8 (AKJV/PCE)
(4:1) What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? (4:2) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God. (4:3) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. (4:4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (4:6) Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, (4:7) [Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. (4:8) Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

You just WILL NOT believe God's Word... GOD'S TRUTH!


Obedience was NEVER the method by which God justified anyone. It was always BY FAITH.

I feel sad for you, because you and your obedience are going to the lake of fire.

P.S. You quote scripture with NO UNDERSTANDING of what it means.

P.P.S. the righteousness that he had by faith.

The righteousness he had by LIVING FAITH, FAITH WITH OBEDIENCE---VERSUS the works of CIRCUMCISION.


James 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.


Romans 4:10 In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before. 11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.


Paul is comparing faith and circumcision, NOT FAITH VERSES OBEDIENCE.
 

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The righteousness he had by LIVING FAITH, FAITH WITH OBEDIENCE---VERSUS the works of CIRCUMCISION.

James 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.

Romans 4:10 In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before. 11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.

Paul is comparing faith and circumcision, NOT FAITH VERSES OBEDIENCE.
The scripture says that Abraham's FAITH was COUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS. You pervert the scripture.
 

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The scripture says that Abraham's FAITH was COUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS. You pervert the scripture.

LIVING FAITH.

Faith without obeying is DEAD. Even the demons believe and do something, they shudder.

Faith without obedience is like a dead body.

Abraham obeyed God from the very beginning when God told Abraham to go to a country he did not know and obeyed and went.

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going.


Did you read that scripture?

It is about the obeying Abraham did before faith was mentioned.


Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you;
 

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LIVING FAITH.

Faith without obeying is DEAD. Even the demons believe and do something, they shudder.

Faith without obedience is like a dead body.

Abraham obeyed God from the very beginning when God told Abraham to go to a country he did not know and obeyed and went.

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going.

Did you read that scripture?

It is about the obeying Abraham did before faith was mentioned.

Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you;
You just will not accept the righteousness of God.

Rom 5:17 (AKJV/PCE)
(5:17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
 

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You just will not accept the righteousness of God.

Rom 5:17 (AKJV/PCE)
(5:17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Adam sinned and ALL sinned.

Jesus obeyed and we have someone to obey.


What you say about me is not true. If I didn't accept Jesus' righteousness I would never obeyed him.
 

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Your usual fallacious logic.


You believe that you have "perfect obedience", but what you have is self-righteousness....

Jesus' words are life and he tells us how to have life.

Our obedience leads us to righteousness see Romans 6:16.

We are righteous because we obey the perfect law see Romans 2:13.

We do what is right; therefore, we are righteous see 1 John 3:12.

The righteous requirements of the law are fully met in me and all those saved, those who live according to the Spirit, See Romans 8:4.

Righteous acts see Revelation 19:8

Righteous for what we do James 2:21, 25

Even Noah was a preacher of righteousness before Jesus came and died for sinners. 2 Peter 2:5.

Even Abraham, when he offered his son as a sacrifice, see James 2:21.

Even Rahab the prostitute, see James 2:25.

By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, Hebrews 11:4.

1 John 3:12 Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.
 

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Jesus' words are life and he tells us how to have life.

Our obedience leads us to righteousness see Romans 6:16.

We are righteous because we obey the perfect law see Romans 2:13.

We do what is right; therefore, we are righteous see 1 John 3:12.

The righteous requirements of the law are fully met in me and all those saved, those who live according to the Spirit, See Romans 8:4.

Righteous acts see Revelation 19:8

Righteous for what we do James 2:21, 25

Even Noah was a preacher of righteousness before Jesus came and died for sinners. 2 Peter 2:5.

Even Abraham, when he offered his son as a sacrifice, see James 2:21.

Even Rahab the prostitute, see James 2:25.

By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, Hebrews 11:4.

1 John 3:12 Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.
You will NOT receive the FREE GIFT of eternal life because of how well you obey anything but BY FAITH.

It's amazing how you misunderstand and PERVERT the scripture.

Rom 6:14-18 (AKJV/PCE)
(6:14) For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (6:15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (6:16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (6:17) But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. (6:18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.


We become servants of righteousness AFTER we are made free from sin. We are made free from sin BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH in what Christ did for us.
 

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You will NOT receive the FREE GIFT of eternal life because of how well you obey anything but BY FAITH.

It's amazing how you misunderstand and PERVERT the scripture.

Rom 6:14-18 (AKJV/PCE)
(6:14) For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (6:15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (6:16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (6:17) But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. (6:18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.


We become servants of righteousness AFTER we are made free from sin. We are made free from sin BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH in what Christ did for us.

Faith alone is dead get it through your head we have to repent of our sins and have faith that Jesus' blood washes them away. You can speak the word perversion all you want and try to demean people in the worst way you can dig up but you will never ever get around the truth and that is that faith alone is dead.
 

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Faith alone is dead get it through your head we have to repent of our sins and have faith that Jesus' blood washes them away. You can speak the word perversion all you want and try to demean people in the worst way you can dig up but you will never ever get around the truth and that is that faith alone is dead.
I agree that faith alone is dead. But eternal life is received by faith only nonetheless.
 
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