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popsthebuilder

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lifeisgood said:
No, gt, you did NOT do ANY of those thing just like the Jews did NOT do any of those things either and DIED lost and STILL ARE NOT doing those things and continue to DIE lost. Having REJECTED as a whole WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did.

You, gt, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.

As heir so succinctly says:
Paul is the apostle of the Gentiles (Romans 11:13, 1 Timothy 2:7 KJV, 2 Timothy 1:11 KJV) given the gospel by which we are saved from the RISEN LORD Himself (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV)/the dispensation of the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV) and later to us, the dispensation of the grace of God (Ephesians 3:1-9 KJV). We are to follow him in doctrine (1 Corinthians 4:15-16, 1 Corinthians 11:1 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:2 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:7-8 KJV).

Which heir proves with the Bible exclusively unlike you, gt.

You, gt, reject Paul's received gospel to the Gentiles from the RISEN LORD Himself to follow James the missionary to the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad going through tribulation. How sad! How sad, indeed!

You, gt, are the MOST DANGEROUS KIND of preacher there is for you mix God's Truth with your UNtruth.
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You still think there are two gospels I see.

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lifeisgood said:
No, gt, you did NOT do ANY of those thing just like the Jews did NOT do any of those things either and DIED lost and STILL ARE NOT doing those things and continue to DIE lost. Having REJECTED as a whole WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did.

You, gt, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.

As heir so succinctly says:
Paul is the apostle of the Gentiles (Romans 11:13, 1 Timothy 2:7 KJV, 2 Timothy 1:11 KJV) given the gospel by which we are saved from the RISEN LORD Himself (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV)/the dispensation of the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV) and later to us, the dispensation of the grace of God (Ephesians 3:1-9 KJV). We are to follow him in doctrine (1 Corinthians 4:15-16, 1 Corinthians 11:1 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:2 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:7-8 KJV).

Which heir proves with the Bible exclusively unlike you, gt.

You, gt, reject Paul's received gospel to the Gentiles from the RISEN LORD Himself to follow James the missionary to the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad going through tribulation. How sad! How sad, indeed!

You, gt, are the MOST DANGEROUS KIND of preacher there is for you mix God's Truth with your UNtruth.
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Paul did not preach two different gospels.

Paul went only to the Gentiles because the Jews did not trust Paul when he preached to them, they thought he was trying to see if they believe in Jesus so he can put them in jail.
 
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lifeisgood

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God's Truth said:
That is about everything that Jesus taught while he walked the earth will be for EVERYONE once he is crucified, but when he walked the earth it was only for the lost sheep of Israel. You better believe I am dangerous.
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Yes, gt, you are the MOST DANGEROUS KIND of preacher in the world, because you MIX God's Truth with YOUR UNtruth peddling a false doctrine.
 
lifeisgood

lifeisgood

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popsthebuilder said:
You still think there are two gospels I see.

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There is only one Gospel to the world, the one the Lord Jesus first gave to the Jews who were to preach it to the whole world (Jews and Gentiles) and being that the Jews rejected Jesus' commandment, the Lord chose Paul to go and preach that Gospel to the Jew first and also to the Gentile.

Paul ALWAYS went to the Jew first everywhere he went, if the Gospel given to him was rejected, then he went to the Gentiles.

So much so Paul loved his people the Jews that Paul said, "I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race" (Romans 9:3). That is how much Paul loved the Jews.

I believe Paul wrote Hebrews almost immediately after he was saved by the Lord. One of the four most difficult books in the Bible if not rightly divided.

Paul preached the GOSPEL RECEIVED FIRST HAND from the RISEN LORD HIMSELF, so you are calling the Lord a liar. Way to go, popsthebuilder. Way to go.

You and gt, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
 
lifeisgood

lifeisgood

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God's Truth said:
Paul did not preach two different gospels.

Paul went only to the Gentiles because the Jews did not trust Paul when he preached to them, they thought he was trying to see if they believe in Jesus so he can put them in jail.
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No, Paul preached the GOSPEL RECEIVED FIRST HAND from the RISEN LORD HIMSELF, so you are calling the Lord a liar. Way to go, gt. Way to go.

You and popsthebuilder, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
 
lifeisgood

lifeisgood

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God's Truth said:
The world is already convicted when Jesus sent the Holy Spirit into the world. All are convicted and condemned until they come to Jesus to be saved.
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So, you are confessing that the Holy Spirit did not convict you because you were already convicted and that is why you keep on working on OBEYING so that you can help the Risen Lord of Glory to save you. Way to go, gt. Way to go.

You, gt, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
 
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popsthebuilder

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lifeisgood said:
There is only one Gospel to the world, the one the Lord Jesus first gave to the Jews who were to preach it to the whole world (Jews and Gentiles) and being that the Jews rejected Jesus' commandment, the Lord chose Paul to go and preach that Gospel to the Jew first and also to the Gentile.

Paul ALWAYS went to the Jew first everywhere he went, if the Gospel given to him was rejected, then the went to the Gentiles.

So much so Paul loved his people the Jews that Paul said, "I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race" (Romans 9:3). That is how much Paul loved the Jews.

I believe Paul wrote Hebrews almost immediately after he was saved by the Lord. One of the four most difficult books in the Bible if not rightly divided.

Paul preached the GOSPEL RECEIVED FIRST HAND from the RISEN LORD HIMSELF, so you are calling the Lord a liar. Way to go, popsthebuilder. Way to go.

You and gt, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
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So silly.....I understand the writings ascribed to St. Paul wholly. It does not contradict the rest of scripture.

Your last comment is simply wrong because of the reasons I have listed.



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lifeisgood

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popsthebuilder said:
So silly.....I understand the writings ascribed to St. Paul wholly. It does not contradict the rest of scripture.

Your last comment is simply wrong because of the reasons I have listed.

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You, popsthebuilder, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
 
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popsthebuilder

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lifeisgood said:
You, popsthebuilder, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
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Hmm.


Interesting.

The fact is that I understand those things very well indeed. Especially the tribulation of the servant of GOD.

Let us discuss them slowly, singularly if needed.

Evidently we disagree. I don't know of any scripture that I ignore or negate in favor of some other or any particular doctrine, but perhaps you can think of one.

Let's recap really quickly.

Jew/ bondservant

Gentile/ free



I ask that you go back over post.#19416 to see my point.

The transition from ot to nt is transition from the misrepresentation of the law due to the actions and greed of man over time through oral tradition and eventually written word, to light and truth.

There is no difference between jew and gentile any longer; all have sinned. The Jew is scattered throughout the world and is of all nations. The mercy of GOD is extended to all life.

St. Peter and St. Paul were both apostles of Christ with a singular Gospel.

If there wasn't a need for change to holiness or righteousness then why was there any need for any Gospel; let alone two? I'm glad you are now saying there is only one now though.

I would like you to single out the first thing in this post that you do not agree with and bring it to my attention. If and when you do that and I see it, I will slowly and sparingly post scripture that we can go over together to see exactly where our views and interpretations differ, and discuss why. Sound like a plan?

Yeah? No? Shutup? What say you?

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lifeisgood said:
No, Paul preached the GOSPEL RECEIVED FIRST HAND from the RISEN LORD HIMSELF, so you are calling the Lord a liar. Way to go, gt. Way to go.
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Only a person who doesn't value the truth would say such a thing.
lifeisgood said:
You and popsthebuilder, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
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Your hodge podge beliefs are not from God.
 
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lifeisgood said:
So, you are confessing that the Holy Spirit did not convict you because you were already convicted and that is why you keep on working on OBEYING so that you can help the Risen Lord of Glory to save you. Way to go, gt. Way to go.

You, gt, have no understanding of the transition from OT to NT, from Jews to Gentiles, from Peter to Paul, from Israel to the Church, from the Church to Israel, and the tribulation of Israel.
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What you say doesn't make sense. You are a confused person speaking confusion and untruths.
 
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