The Trinity

[popsthebuilder]

Way to stay on topic and display the characteristics of actual Christian's.

Can we maybe go over sacred biblical texts that speak of the dispersal of the Jew and the fact that there is no division between jew and gentile any longer. Can we also go over the fact that the law is written on the hearts and minds of the believer for a reason and that reason isn't expressly one's own salvation?



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[lifeisgood]

Way to stay on topic and display the characteristics of actual Christian's.

Can we maybe go over sacred biblical texts that speak of the dispersal of the Jew and the fact that there is no division between jew and gentile any longer. Can we also go over the fact that the law is written on the hearts and minds of the believer for a reason and that reason isn't expressly one's own salvation?

Sure.
Start the conversation and those interested will eventually respond.
I do not believe you have to ask permission to start a conversation.

 

[God's Truth]

So instead of refuting my points, you just say: "You, JudgeRightly, are wrong because you, JudgeRightly, disagree with me, GT."

Refute my points (if you can), you heretic. Everything I say comes from scripture.

By the way, how do you know that my teachers are the ones that are false? How come you never doubt your teachers?

I, JudgeRightly, hereby call into question the trustworthiness of GT's teachers (ie, the ones who taught GT what she believes).

Jesus is my teacher. When Jesus saved me, he gave me understanding of all that I had studied before, and then he revealed to me the truth in all that I studied thereafter. The Bible is the only book I use.

As for the post you want me to take so much time on and correct you, I don't think you would value it so I won't waste my time on it.

 

[lifeisgood]

As for the post you want me to take so much time on and correct you, I don't think you would value it so I won't waste my time on it.

TRANSLATION: I, gt, cannot be bothered with people that do not obey me and my false doctrine. :chuckle:

 

[God's Truth]

Um, what?

How did you get that from my post?

I'm talking about James writing only to those who are part of the diaspora. If you're not part of the diaspora, then James's message is not for you.

Firstly, James preached the one and only gospel that saves and it is the same gospel Paul preached.

Next: James is calling the gospel you MISUNDERSTAND Paul as preaching as FOOLISH when he rebukes the people for thinking that faith alone saves! ISN'T that what you say James is doing? YOU ARE claiming that because YOU SAY JAMES is preaching something different than Paul! Isn't that what you claim James is doing, speaking ANOTHER gospel different than Paul's?! Come on now, let's get deeper into this and if you want me to address you posts with care do the same for me.

Now tell me, how do you EVER GET that an apostle to the Lamb, James, would EVER go against the Lamb and a different gospel he gave Paul, if that is another gospel Paul preached? You claim Paul said faith and no obedience at all; and we see James goes against it and calls it dead and foolish. You would rather us believe that Paul taught another gospel that James makes fun of than to think that you are wrong and misunderstand Paul.

 

[God's Truth]

TRANSLATION: I, gt, cannot be bothered with people that do not obey me and my false doctrine. :chuckle:

I guess someone's gotta do what you do, or there won't be differences between us and we wouldn't know who is a child of God and who isn't.

 

[God's Truth]

Show from the Bible in the conversation the thief had with Jesus where Jesus said 'you have to obey so that I can save you.'



You have no idea to whom James was written to or what kind of faith James is talking about.



Dead faith is the faith that says they being an UNbeliever you have to OBEY for God to save them.

Jesus tells us what kind of people he saves, and then he tells us how to be that person.

You go against the idea of doing right to be saved.

That alone shows what a great error you are in, not much unlike when someone asked Eve, "Did God really say ___?" See Genesis 3:1.

 

[Right Divider]

Jesus tells us what kind of people he saves, and then he tells us how to be that person.

You go against the idea of doing right to be saved.

That alone shows what a great error you are in, not much unlike when someone asked Eve, "Did God really say ___?" See Genesis 3:1.

Once again, GT hates God's grace.

 

[God's Truth]

That is gt's modus operandi.



She can't refute your points exactly when she said she won the debate with AMR.
gt simply say 'what I, gt, say, that's God's Truth'.



Well, because she has never learned from any man/woman but she received this revelation from the risen Lord Himself like keypurr? :chuckle: :idunno:



She ain't got none. She is the only one that has God's Truth. How could you not know that JudgeRightly. :chuckle:

You compare me to keypurr, but you are the ones who are like keypurr, you can't be reasoned with and you ignore and deny the scriptures.

AMR did lose that debate, but he is too delusional to see it. He follows me around and posts the link to the debate and claims he has won. However, anyone with eyes and ears can see and hear that he doesn't know how to debate, and he merely copies and paste material and doesn't directly answer any questions.

Go look at the debate. Did AMR ever tell what essence God is besides saying God is the essence?
What a massive failure on his part.
In addition, while you are at it, show where he answers anything that I say except to get out of answering the questions by speaking rhetoric as if I have done something incomplete while he is the one who really failed.

 

[God's Truth]

Once again, GT hates God's grace.

Jesus doesn't say you don't have to do anything to be saved. That is not grace.

Grace is that you don't have to get circumcised and sacrifice animals. Duh.

Where do you ever get grace means you don't have to obey anything Jesus taught?


Jesus while he walked the earth: "Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them."

Me: "Jesus says obey Jesus to get saved and to stay saved"

RightDivider, "No, Jesus gave Paul another gospel called grace and it means you don't have to do anything that Jesus taught".


UNBELIEVABLE defiance to God!

 

[God's Truth]

I have told gt that she has issues with comprehension when the coffee is not strong enough. :chuckle:

What a dumb idiotic thing a meddling woman would say.

 

[Right Divider]

Jesus doesn't say you don't have to do anything to be saved. That is not grace.

Grace is that you don't have to get circumcised and sacrifice animals. Duh.

Where do you ever get grace means you don't have to obey anything Jesus taught?

Jesus while he walked the earth: "Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them."

Me: "Jesus says obey Jesus to get saved and to stay saved"

RightDivider, "No, Jesus gave Paul another gospel called grace and it means you don't have to do anything that Jesus taught".

UNBELIEVABLE defiance to God!

You are anti-God and anti-grace.... You need to get saved.

You CLEARLY have NO IDEA what the gospel of the grace of God is. You are CLEARLY a self-righteous lost person in need of grace that you will not accept.

That you think that grace is just about circumcision and animal sacrifices shows that you are completely BLIND and LOST.

 

[God's Truth]

You are anti-God and anti-grace.... You need to get saved.

You CLEARLY have NO IDEA what the gospel of the grace of God is. You are CLEARLY a self-righteous lost person in need of grace that you will not accept.

That you think that grace is just about circumcision and animal sacrifices shows that you are completely BLIND and LOST.

Grace is that no one has to do these works anymore:

The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.


No one has to do those works anymore just to make themselves clean just to be able to go to the temple to be near God's Spirit.

Grace is that Jesus makes us clean and we become the temple.

You preach we don't have to obey anymore. WHO but the devil would be behind that teaching saying we don't have to obey?

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus came to earth and spent three and a half years teaching in his ministry.

Jesus told us what we have to do to get saved and to stay saved.

He then died on the cross and shed his blood to SEAL those teachings by making it a covenant in his blood.

You people preach that when Jesus preached it was never for Gentiles or anyone else but Jews and that when Jesus died on the cross God nailed all those things Jesus taught and took them away with sin. UNBELIEVABLE!!! NO WAY!!! How does that not bother you to believe and teach such things?

 

[popsthebuilder]

2 Corinthians 5: 15. And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 17. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


(So, is being made the righteousness of GOD through Christ synonymous with wallowing in more for some?)

That really is revolting.



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[Right Divider]

Grace is that no one has to do these works anymore:

The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.

No one has to do those works anymore just to make themselves clean just to be able to go to the temple to be near God's Spirit.

Grace is that Jesus makes us clean and we become the temple.

You preach we don't have to obey anymore. WHO but the devil would be behind that teaching saying we don't have to obey?

• YOU were NEVER under those "laws that you don't need to do anymore".
• I have NEVER said that we should not obey the LORD.
• YOU are a LIAR when you claim that salvation is based on faith plus works.

Rom 6:23 (AKJV/PCE)​

(6:23) For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
​

You just will not accept the GIFT of God.... you want to "pitch in" for "partial payment" of what is a GIFT OF GOD.

 

[popsthebuilder]

• YOU were NEVER under those "laws that you don't need to do anymore".
• I have NEVER said that we should not obey the LORD.
• YOU are a LIAR when you claim that salvation is based on faith plus works.

Rom 6:23 (AKJV/PCE)​

(6:23) For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
​

You just will not accept the GIFT of God.... you want to "pitch in" for "partial payment" of what is a GIFT OF GOD.

A free gift that one doesn't use and throws aside as if of no value or worth? Or a gift that one cherishes and believes in and uses?

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[Right Divider]

A free gift that one doesn't use and throws aside as if of no value or worth? Or a gift that one cherishes and believes in and uses?

You'd have to have received it first to even understand the answer to that question.

Eph 2:4-10 (AKJV/PCE)​

(2:4) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, (2:5) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved (2:6) And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus: (2:7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in [his] kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast. (2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. ​

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

That is gt's modus operandi.

She can't refute your points exactly when she said she won the debate with AMR.
gt simply say 'what I, gt, say, that's God's Truth'.

Indeed.

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...use-to-house&p=5109271&viewfull=1#post5109271

Q.E.D.

AMR

 

[popsthebuilder]

You'd have to have received it first to even understand the answer to that question.

Eph 2:4-10 (AKJV/PCE)​

(2:4) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, (2:5) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved (2:6) And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus: (2:7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in [his] kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast. (2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. ​

So you agree that the gift is to be used once received?

Good

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