The Trinity

[lifeisgood]

I am not going to discuss the scriptures with you anymore. You don't even know what you say, you get wrong what I say, and you contradict yourself.

As you wish, gt.

 

[God's Truth]

OBEYING is to carry out or fulfill a command, an order.

What ORDER did God tell me to OBEY when He offered to SAVE me?

You heard the gospel did you not? Did you not say you heard the gospel that saves?

 

[God's Truth]

As you wish, gt.

You are leaving me no other choice. What good is it to talk to you when you say things then say you didn't say them? You also obeyed Jesus then say you didn't. You also say things about me that I have not said.

I wish to talk to you but there is something too wrong there.

 

[lifeisgood]

You heard the gospel did you not? Did you not say you heard the gospel that saves?

Absolutely I heard the Gospel of salvation.

 

[God's Truth]

Absolutely I heard the Gospel of salvation.

This is the message that saves:


Acts 10

34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. 41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”



What do you get from hearing that message?
Did you read that God accepts those who fear Him and who do what is right?
Did you hear that Jesus judges and forgives?
Do you not understand that Jesus preached to repent or perish?
Did you not ever read how Jesus said to humble yourself?

 

[lifeisgood]

You are leaving me no other choice. What good is it to talk to you when you say things then say you didn't say them? You also obeyed Jesus then say you didn't. You also say things about me that I have not said.

I wish to talk to you but there is something too wrong there.

As you wish, gt.

 

[lifeisgood]

This is the message that saves:


Acts 10

34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. 41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”



What do you get from hearing that message?
Did you read that God accepts those who fear Him and who do what is right?
Did you hear that Jesus judges and forgives?
Do you not understand that Jesus preached to repent or perish?
Did you not ever read how Jesus said to humble yourself?

I did not realize you were Jewish, gt.

 

[God's Truth]

I did not realize you were Jewish, gt.

That was the message Peter gave to Cornelius and his household.

There were not Jews.

So what in the world do you think is the message that saves?

 

[popsthebuilder]

All believers are told to call on the Lord.
The Bible is all, totally and completely, to, for, and about BElievers.



Not because they are OBEYING anything but because the Lord has permitted him/her to get to the bottom of themselves and there is no other way to go but to cry out to God. How many testimonies have I not heard about that.



There is no such a thing as 1/3 of anything in the Trinity/Triunity of God. That is something you have made up.



You're sounding like Benny Hinn that one time said there was nine in the Godhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beiSK3kxh4U

BTW: The RCC did not invent the Trinity as many of you guys attest.



For which you have received real answers by others much better equipped than myself to answer them, even though I have tried to the best of my ability.



Isn't the Lord wonderful that He has given us the ability to sleep without us doing anything about it.

How is there no third anything when you are speaking of a three part god?

Please answer the question instead of changing the subject.

And by the way.

If God is three persons with separate personalities or characteristics and each person is comprised of body soul and spirit then your god would indeed be a 9 or 12 part god.

Not 1/3....thought there were three separate distinct persons?

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[popsthebuilder]

Why do you, gt, think that popsthebuilder agrees with you that a UNbeliever can obey? Because that is what YOU, gt, preach and the quote I gave you of popsthebuilder was one where he was DEFENDING YOU, gt and your doctrine.

So, go think about it some more.

You need to stop NOW!!!!

DO NOT ASSUME WHY I AGREE WITH HER. YOU ARE WRONG.

I JUST EXPLAINED IT. IT IS SCRIPTURAL, AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW IT IS TRUE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY.

YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE.



may GOD guide you to the truth.


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[popsthebuilder]

When did I say that, gt? When? Let me answer that for you, gt. Never.



Yes. Every single person who in one way or another 'hears' the Gospel of salvation, WILL CALL on the Lord.



No, gt, the RCC did NOT invent the Trinity/Triunity of God. It does not matter how many times you say that the RCC invented the Trinity/Triunity of God. As if the RCC would have such power.



What do you not understand, gt, that I told popsthebuilder that I have to the best of my ability, and others also, answered his real questions with real answers?

How much do you OBEY, gt, to be able to sleep that you do not understand what I said in response to pospsthebuilder saying he was real tired too?
Isn't the Lord wonderful that He has given us the ability to sleep without us doing anything about it.

It is sad how naive some are. And sadder still how they can't see illogic even when it is spewing from their lips.

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[popsthebuilder]

No, gt, I, lifeisgood do not contradict myself.

Humbling and repenting of your sins has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with OBEYING.

God sends an INVITATION if you want TO BE SAVED not an ORDER OF OBEDIENCE, gt.
God is a gracious God.
God is a merciful God.
God is NOT a taskmaster, gt.

Pretty sure we are told to humble ourselves and repent .

Doing so would be following said direction.

Guess what; that's doing something.



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[lifeisgood]

How is there no third anything when you are speaking of a three part god?

Please answer the question instead of changing the subject.

And by the way.

If God is three persons with separate personalities or characteristics and each person is comprised of body soul and spirit then your god would indeed be a 9 or 12 part god.

Not 1/3....thought there were three separate distinct persons?

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Whatever, popsthebuilder, whatever.

God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Three Persons. Not 1/3 of anything. That's your false doctrine talking.

 

[lifeisgood]

Pretty sure we are told to humble ourselves and repent.

:sigh: :doh: NOT TO BE SAVED, popsthebuilder, otherwise God couldn't save any, not even you, or gt with all your works of obedience. No UNbeliever has EVER OBEYED God in anything.

Doing so would be following said direction.

NOT TO BE SAVED popsthebuilder. NOT TO BE SAVED.

Guess what; that's doing something.

You, I, or, any other person who has ever heard the Gospel of Salvation have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO BE SAVED. Salvation is God's job.

And if you, like gt, say that you have done anything TO BE SAVED, you need to hear the Gospel of salvation and allow the Lord to do HIS JOB, because neither you, nor I, nor any one else can save ourselves with all the works of obedience you can ever present to God. So, please, stop trying to do God's job and let Him save you, or anybody else, which is HIS JOB.

Please, don't come back with the 'I never said I was God' or I'll have to ask you to put on the helmet of comprehension on.

 

[lifeisgood]

It is sad how naive some are. And sadder still how they can't see illogic even when it is spewing from their lips.

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You, popsthebuilder, lean on your own understanding. Hope it is working for you.

 

[lifeisgood]

You need to stop NOW!!!!

Go boss somebody else, popsthebuilder.

DO NOT ASSUME WHY I AGREE WITH HER. YOU ARE WRONG.

I assume nothing. I go by what you write, exactly as you do with anyone else here.

I JUST EXPLAINED IT. IT IS SCRIPTURAL, AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW IT IS TRUE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY.

It is not scriptural that a UNbeliever CAN OBEY God being a UNbeliever. It does not matter how many times that lie is repeated.

YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE.

Thank you for letting me know.

may GOD guide you to the truth.

Being that you used so many capitals, God's Truth is hitting exactly where it is supposed to, and I ain't talking about gt.

 

[lifeisgood]

That was the message Peter gave to Cornelius and his household.

There were not Jews.

So what in the world do you think is the message that saves?

Oh, c'mom gt, ALL were doing Jewish customs even though they were Gentiles.

NONE of all the alms giving, none of all the good works they did, etc., etc., nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing of all their OBEYING saved them.

They had to hear the Gospel and nowhere in what Peter preached did he say to Cornelius and his household, 'oh, wonderful, how you're all doing all this obeying and because you're doing all this obeying, God sent me to you'.

No, nothing that they did saved them.
Or maybe in your doctrine they were saved already BEFORE they heard the Gospel.
Or maybe in your doctrine they were saved already and God was subservient to them.
Or maybe in your doctrine God saw all their OBEYING and was forced to send Peter.

:idunno:

 

[God's Truth]

Oh, c'mom gt, ALL were doing Jewish customs even though they were Gentiles.

NONE of all the alms giving, none of all the good works they did, etc., etc., nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing of all their OBEYING saved them.

They had to hear the Gospel and nowhere in what Peter preached did he say to Cornelius and his household, 'oh, wonderful, how you're all doing all this obeying and because you're doing all this obeying, God sent me to you'.

No, nothing that they did saved them.
Or maybe in your doctrine they were saved already BEFORE they heard the Gospel.
Or maybe in your doctrine they were saved already and God was subservient to them.
Or maybe in your doctrine God saw all their OBEYING and was forced to send Peter.

:idunno:

No one is saved before they are saved.

Jesus is the Way and he tells us what to do to get saved.

He tells us what has happened in the heart of one who is about to get saved, and what happens in the heart after one is saved.

I want to talk about the deeper things of God and help those who just don't feel that they are saved, or they don't know for sure.

If you did get saved when you say you did, it does not mean you did not fall into the snare of the devil to teach things against salvation.

God says to add to your faith 'knowledge'.

You are not adding knowledge to your faith you are fighting it, which makes me see that you have been ensnared.

 

[Right Divider]

You don't even know what you are cracking up about do you.

How many times do you and the others of your ilk call me a liar, and other false things? That is slander.

You don't even know what slander is. Go look it up.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Whatever, popsthebuilder, whatever.

God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Three Persons. Not 1/3 of anything. That's your false doctrine talking.

If three separate persons making one god then any of the three by themselves would be 1/3 of the whole.



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