The Trinity

[lifeisgood]

How do you obey the words of God before you hear the words of God?

Even popsthebuilder agrees with you, gt, that while in UNbelief UNbelievers can obey God:

You, lifeisgood, asked if I thought as gt does, that unbelievers can obey GOD while in unbelief.

For your sake, lifeisgood, I, popsthebuilder, would honestly answer is a resounding yes.

 

[lifeisgood]

You are wrong.

Then you misled everybody declaring that that was your powerful testimony.

 

[God's Truth]

Even popsthebuilder agrees with you, gt, that while in UNbelief UNbelievers can obey God:

But that is not what you said.

Go think about it some more.

 

[God's Truth]

Then you misled everybody declaring that that was your powerful testimony.

Let's talk about you for awhile. When and how were you saved?

 

[popsthebuilder]

Even popsthebuilder agrees with you, gt, that while in UNbelief UNbelievers can obey God:

We are told to call on the Lord.

If one calls on the Lord in hope and need, even while an unbeliever (not even knowing they are fulfilling some command, or even believing there is a GOD) then they are doing what GOD wanted; especially while in unbelief I would suspect.

So; in your version of the trinity; is each 1/3 that makes up GOD when united allowed it's own different spirit or soul? If so could you list the differentiating characteristics between the three, and which is most powerful when separate from the others?

And if not three separate sprits or souls to then why. Consider to the trinity doctrine needed at all,other than to continue with a tradition they you know started by evil men....you know those guys responsible for the crusades?

Real questions

Real tired too.



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[lifeisgood]

Let's talk about you for awhile. When and how were you saved?

I have said a few times here, I was merrily going straight to hell singing a love song about it.

I used to go to the beauty salon every Saturday morning and the only person I allowed to tough my hair was a Christian (the Lord has such a sense of humor).

She talked to me about God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit in varied and different ways for two years and out of total frustration of her always inviting me to go to church with her, I told her OK, I'll go to church this Sunday.

When I heard the Gospel of salvation, there was this something that enveloped me (then I couldn't tell you what it was, now I know it was the Holy Spirit convicting me of my sins and at that moment I understood that I was a sinner and there was no hope for me if I rejected what God was offering me -- salvation), and I humbled myself, acknowledged I needed a Savior, repented before God, and when I left that building, I knew, without a shadow of a doubt to this day, that God saved me and calls me His and I have never been the same since.

I still remember the yellow little church (it no longer exists).

Then I started reading the Bible, got water baptized (not to be saved, but as a symbolism of what God did for me), tell as many people as the Lord places in my path about what God has done for me.

Since that day, I have learned what He gave up so that He can have me. His love is something I do not deserve. To think He came looking for such a one as me. I can do nothing but humble myself before Him. When I am in His presence, He will make me understand what He saw in such a undeserving one as myself.

God is so good. Praise be to His name.
Thank you Lord for saving me, protecting me, walking with me all these years, never letting go of my hand.

Eternity will not be enough time to say 'Thank you, Lord for saving me.'

 

[lifeisgood]

We are told to call on the Lord.

All believers are told to call on the Lord.
The Bible is all, totally and completely, to, for, and about BElievers.

If one calls on the Lord in hope and need, even while an unbeliever (not even knowing they are fulfilling some command, or even believing there is a GOD) then they are doing what GOD wanted; especially while in unbelief I would suspect.

Not because they are OBEYING anything but because the Lord has permitted him/her to get to the bottom of themselves and there is no other way to go but to cry out to God. How many testimonies have I not heard about that.

So; in your version of the trinity; is each 1/3 that makes up GOD when united allowed it's own different spirit or soul? If so could you list the differentiating characteristics between the three, and which is most powerful when separate from the others?

There is no such a thing as 1/3 of anything in the Trinity/Triunity of God. That is something you have made up.

And if not three separate sprits or souls to then why. Consider to the trinity doctrine needed at all,other than to continue with a tradition they you know started by evil men....you know those guys responsible for the crusades?

You're sounding like Benny Hinn that one time said there was nine in the Godhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beiSK3kxh4U

BTW: The RCC did not invent the Trinity as many of you guys attest.

Real questions

For which you have received real answers by others much better equipped than myself to answer them, even though I have tried to the best of my ability.

Real tired too.

Isn't the Lord wonderful that He has given us the ability to sleep without us doing anything about it.

 

[lifeisgood]

But that is not what you said.

Go think about it some more.

Why do you, gt, think that popsthebuilder agrees with you that a UNbeliever can obey? Because that is what YOU, gt, preach and the quote I gave you of popsthebuilder was one where he was DEFENDING YOU, gt and your doctrine.

So, go think about it some more.

 

[God's Truth]

I have said a few times here, I was merrily going straight to hell singing a love song about it.

I used to go to the beauty salon every Saturday morning and the only person I allowed to tough my hair was a Christian (the Lord has such a sense of humor).

She talked to me about God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit in varied and different ways for two years and out of total frustration of her always inviting me to go to church with her, I told her OK, I'll go to church this Sunday.

When I heard the Gospel of salvation, there was this something that enveloped me (then I couldn't tell you what it was, now I know it was the Holy Spirit convicting me of my sins and at that moment I understood that I was a sinner and there was no hope for me if I rejected what God was offering me -- salvation), and I humbled myself, acknowledged I needed a Savior, repented before God, and when I left that building, I knew, without a shadow of a doubt to this day, that God saved me and calls me His and I have never been the same since.

I still remember the yellow little church (it no longer exists).

Then I started reading the Bible, got water baptized (not to be saved, but as a symbolism of what God did for me), tell as many people as I the Lord places in my path about what God has done for me.

Since that day, I have learned what He gave up so that He can have me. His love is something I do not deserve. To think He came looking for such a one as me. I can do nothing but humble myself before Him. When I am in His presence, He will make me understand what He saw in such a undeserving one as myself.

God is so good. Praise be to His name.
Thank you Lord for saving me, protecting me, walking with me all these years, never letting go of my hand.

Eternity will not be enough time to say 'Thank you, Lord for saving me.'

Thank you for sharing your testimony of when you were saved.

I am not sure why you always go against me when I preach obedience to get saved.

Sounds like you obeyed to get saved, you believed and you humbled yourself, and you repented of your sins.

 

[God's Truth]

Why do you, gt, think that popsthebuilder agrees with you that a UNbeliever can obey? Because that is what YOU, gt, preach and the quote I gave you of popsthebuilder was one where he was DEFENDING YOU, gt and your doctrine.

So, go think about it some more.

I believed in the Father and Jesus since a very small child.

I have said that someone who does not yet know what to believe about Jesus can get his teachings, obey them, and then they will find out and have faith.

That is what I have said.

I have not said what you claim I say. I have not said I obeyed before I knew what Jesus taught. How can anyone obey Jesus' teachings if they never heard of his teachings?

As for someone wanting to know if what Jesus teaches is true, they can find out if they want to, if they will do what he says.

John 7:17 Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.

Did you read that scripture? It is about believing AFTER obeying.

 

[God's Truth]

All believers are told to call on the Lord.
The Bible is all, totally and completely, to, for, and about BElievers.

No, not everyone who reads the Bible is a believer.

Not because they are OBEYING anything but because the Lord has permitted him/her to get to the bottom of themselves and there is no other way to go but to cry out to God. How many testimonies have I not heard about that.

Jesus says to call on him.

There is no such a thing as 1/3 of anything in the Trinity/Triunity of God. That is something you have made up.


BTW: The RCC did not invent the Trinity as many of you guys attest.

They did.

For which you have received real answers by others much better equipped than myself to answer them, even though I have tried to the best of my ability.



Isn't the Lord wonderful that He has given us the ability to sleep without us doing anything about it.

That means what?

 

[lifeisgood]

Thank you for sharing your testimony of when you were saved.

I am not sure why you always go against me when I preach obedience to get saved.

Sounds like you obeyed to get saved, you believed and repented of your sins.

I obeyed nothing, gt.

I was not asked to obey anything.

I was convicted of my sins.

I recognized God was right and I was wrong.

I was 'asked' to accept God's salvation when I heard the Gospel of salvation and I said 'Yes, Lord'.

I did absolutely nothing, gt, absolutely nothing.

He did everything.
He invited me to hear the Gospel (using the hairdresser).
He opened my ears to hear the Gospel of salvation.
He convicted me of my sins.
He held my hand waiting for me to say, 'yes' or 'no' to His invitation.
He accepted me when he heard my acceptance.
He bought me with His blood.
He washed me.
He cleansed me of all my sins.

 

[God's Truth]

I obeyed nothing, gt.

I was not asked to obey anything.

I was convicted of my sins.

I recognized God was right and I was wrong.

I was 'asked' to accept God's salvation when I heard the Gospel of salvation and I said 'Yes, Lord'.

I did absolutely nothing, gt, absolutely nothing.

He did everything.
He invited me to hear the Gospel (using the hairdresser).
He opened my ears to hear the Gospel of salvation.
He convicted me of my sins.
He held my hand waiting for me to say, 'yes' or 'no' to His invitation.
He accepted me when he heard my acceptance.
He bought me with His blood.
He washed me.
He cleansed me of all my sins.

You contradict yourself.

You said you humbled yourself and repented of your sins.

That is what the gospel that saves is about.

He accepted you when He heard your acceptance?

Just listen to yourself, you can't stop contradicting.

He held your hand until you said yes or no? Give scriptures for that one.

 

[lifeisgood]

No, not everyone who reads the Bible is a believer.

When did I say that, gt? When? Let me answer that for you, gt. Never.

Jesus says to call on him.

Yes. Every single person who in one way or another 'hears' the Gospel of salvation, WILL CALL on the Lord.

They did.

No, gt, the RCC did NOT invent the Trinity/Triunity of God. It does not matter how many times you say that the RCC invented the Trinity/Triunity of God. As if the RCC would have such power.

That means what?

What do you not understand, gt, that I told popsthebuilder that I have to the best of my ability, and others also, answered his real questions with real answers?

How much do you OBEY, gt, to be able to sleep that you do not understand what I said in response to pospsthebuilder saying he was real tired too?
Isn't the Lord wonderful that He has given us the ability to sleep without us doing anything about it.

 

[God's Truth]

When did I say that, gt? When? Let me answer that for you, gt. Never.

You did say it when you said the Bible was for and to believers.

The Bible is all, totally and completely, to, for, and about BElievers.

 

[lifeisgood]

You contradict yourself.

You said you humbled yourself and repented of your sins.

That is what the gospel that saves is about.

No, gt, I, lifeisgood do not contradict myself.

Humbling and repenting of your sins has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with OBEYING.

God sends an INVITATION if you want TO BE SAVED not an ORDER OF OBEDIENCE, gt.
God is a gracious God.
God is a merciful God.
God is NOT a taskmaster, gt.

 

[God's Truth]

No, gt, I, lifeisgood do not contradict myself.

Humbling and repenting of your sins has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with OBEYING.

God sends an INVITATION if you want TO BE SAVED not an ORDER OF OBEDIENCE, gt.
God is a gracious God.
God is a merciful God.
God is NOT a taskmaster, gt.

I don't believe you are a stable person.

I won't be debating with you anymore because you said humbling yourself and repenting is not obeying.

 

[lifeisgood]

You did say it when you said the Bible was for and to believers.

Obviously, all kinds of people read the Bible and there are some who are not believers, however, everything written on the pages of the Bible are to, for, and about BELIEVERS.

Put the comprehension helmet on, gt, please.

 

[God's Truth]

Obviously, all kinds of people read the Bible and there are some who are not believers, however, everything written on the pages of the Bible are to, for, and about BELIEVERS.

Put the comprehension helmet on, gt, please.

I am not going to discuss the scriptures with you anymore. You don't even know what you say, you get wrong what I say, and you contradict yourself.

 

[lifeisgood]

I don't believe you are a stable person.

I won't be debating with you anymore because you said humbling yourself and repenting is not obeying.

OBEYING is to carry out or fulfill a command, an order.

What ORDER did God tell me to OBEY when He offered to SAVE me?