He'd have to fake it!!
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He'd have to fake it!!
I Just got up! I'm going back to sleep! Just checked in!
Amen!
:crackup:
Stop reminding yourself, okay?
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Poor chyrsostom, goes on a nep rep rampage.
Really, 3 neg reps in a row?
You are a son of the devil, as I knew all along.
Really, 3 neg reps in a row?
You are a son of the devil, as I knew all along.
heir
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I guess Paul just forgot to mention your only one gospel when he was listing the unity of the Spirit. :nono:
Arsenios
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IF you believe this is true, then you must show Peter's Gospel and put it alongside Paul's Gospel and show how they are different.
Because here is your problem:
This is what you see as NOT PETER'S GOSPEL, yes?
So IF you think that Peter did NOT preach this Gospel, then you MUST SHOW him preaching a DIFFERENT Gospel which contradicts THIS Gospel which Paul is teaching...
And THIS you have failed to do...
And UNTIL you are able to do so, you are no more than a kitten watching the swirling waters of the toilet as it is flushing around and around and around, soon to disappear with its contents...
Because what Paul writes above IS the Gospel of Peter and of ALL the Apostles...
Arsenios
heir
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made up
The gospel of the grace of God is not being preached in The Revelation. :duh:
heir
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He does the same thing to me.
Poor ArSINios tries his best to prove, he has a modicum of relevance but,
he continues to disprove that possibility at every turn!
he continues to disprove that possibility at every turn!
does what you do really matter?
ArSINios is involved in some form of Eastern Orthodox religion or
something? Either way, he's a nuisance in his own right!
In some areas of importance; YEP!
With as many problems you have, do you really think you ought
to be "second guessing" others shortcomings? I think not!
Mocking You
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Be gentle with me, I'm trying to learn MAD. Here is Peter's gospel, from Acts 2:
23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it.
And here is Paul's gospel, from I Cor. 15:
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve.
So, what is the difference?
23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it.
And here is Paul's gospel, from I Cor. 15:
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve.
So, what is the difference?
Peter is speaking to members of the House of Israel, and preaching
the "Kingdom Message!" Whereas, Paul is preaching the "Grace
Message" to the gentiles! Therein, lies the difference!
Arsenios
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So do you really think that we find the UNITY of the Spirit in the DUALITY of GOSPELS???
Actually, he is exhorting them HOW to WALK WORTHILY according to the vocation in which they were CALLED:
Eph 4:1
I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
You are not able to show Peter saying anything other than this...
Eph 4:2-6
With all lowliness and meekness,
with longsuffering,
forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
You cannot prove that Peter teaches anything different from this...
There is one body,
and one Spirit,
even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
One Lord,
one faith,
one baptism,
One God and Father of all,
who is above all,
and through all,
and in you all.
Peter is recorded in Scripture as saying nothing at any variance with this at all, is he?
Nor John...
Nor IAKOVOS...
Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
You cannot show EVEN ONE PASSAGE where Peter teaches ANY contrary doctrine...
CAN YOU?
So it is time to put up, Heir...
Show us all where Peter preaches AGAINST ANY of these doctrines which you think are Paul's but not Peter's...
Let's all SEE what ya GOT!
Arsenios
heir
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Here are some things that are different:
At Pentecost (a Jewish holy day) Peter preached:
Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Paul preached:
1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Peter preached that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead to sit on David’s throne:
Acts 2:30 KJV Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Paul preached that Jesus Christ was delivered for our offences and raised again for our justification:
Romans 4:25 KJV Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Peter preached the blotting out of sins at the second coming of the Lord
Acts 3:19-20 KJV Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Paul writes that we have NOW received the atonement:
Romans 5:11 KJV And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Peter said it was spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began:
Acts 3:21 KJV Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Paul says it was a secret since the world began
Romans 16:25 KJV Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Peter said to Cornelius:
Acts 10:35 KJV But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Paul writes:
Titus 3:5 KJV Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
heir
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Peter preached a murder indictment to all the house of Israel. He did not glory in the cross. He preached it as a shame. And did you notice, Peter did NOT preach "that Christ died for our sins"?!
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