Bingo. For once, we agree, because we agree with the book's testimony.
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Bingo. For once, we agree, because we agree with the book's testimony.
genuineoriginal
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You keep missing the words of the Lord mentioned in the psalm.
Psalm 12:5-7 6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. |
The psalm speaks of the Lord promising to set the faithful in safety and praises that promise.
Then the psalm states that the Lord shall "guard, watch, watch over, keep" them, meaning the faithful, from this generation for ever.
There is always a point in praising God for His promises.
Thanks, D of G.
I "take God at His word"-the simple definition of faith. He inspired it(2 Tim. 3:16 KJV), He preserved it, and it is without error, in 5th grade English. The Holy Bible's testimony , which it declares emphatically, is that it is "... impossible for God to lie..." (Heb. 6:18 KJV). The apostle Paul speaks of our God as one who "... cannot lie..." (Titus 1:2 KJV), and scripture declares our God as "...a God of truth..."(Deuteronomy 32:4 KJV, Psalms 31:5 KJV, Isaiah 65:16 KJV). This same God declares that His word is perfect; there are no errors within it-none, despite these wicked bible critics/rejectors/correctors/mystics/agnostics satanic protests to the contrary.
genuineoriginal
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Lol, it's the same as trying to discuss the scripture with certain others who say it has errors, especially that one book misunderstands another book: how can you discuss-debate-argue intelligibly with those who read a text to say whatever they will it to say regardless of what it actually says? The disconnect is apparently somewhere between the page and the eye or from the lamp of the eye into the naos: like some unseen "power of the air".
Yes, there are many who read the text to say that the Lord will preserve "words" instead of the Lord preserving the faithful from this generation for ever as the psalm was written to state.
It is only the KJV and a couple of other translations that can be misunderstood to be saying the Lord will preserve words.
Here are what the other translations of the verse state:
AMP You, O Lord, will preserve and keep them; You will protect him from this [evil] generation forever.
AMPC You will keep them and preserve them, O Lord; You will guard and keep us from this [evil] generation forever.
CSB You, Lord, will guard us; you will protect us from this generation forever.
CEB You, Lord, will keep us, protecting us from this generation forever.
CJB You, Adonai, protect us; guard us forever from this generation —
CEV You will protect us and always keep us safe from those people.
ERV Lord, take care of the helpless. Protect them forever from the wicked people in this world.
EHV You, Lord, will keep them safe. You will protect them from such people forever.
ESV You, O Lord, will keep them; you will guard us from this generation forever.
ESVUK You, O Lord, will keep them; you will guard us from this generation for ever.
EXB Lord, you will ·keep us safe [L guard/protect them]; you will always ·protect [guard] us from such ·people [a generation].
GNV Thou wilt keep them, O Lord; thou wilt preserve him from this generation forever.
GW O Lord, you will protect them. You will keep each one safe from those people forever.
GNT The wicked are everywhere, and everyone praises what is evil. Keep us always safe, O Lord, and preserve us from such people.
HCSB You, Lord, will guard us; You will protect us from this generation forever.
ICB Lord, keep us safe. Always protect us from such people.
LEB You, O Yahweh, will protect them. You will preserve him from this generation always.
TLB O Lord, we know that you will forever preserve your own from the reach of evil men,
MSG God’s words are pure words, Pure silver words refined seven times In the fires of his word-kiln, Pure on earth as well as in heaven. God, keep us safe from their lies, From the wicked who stalk us with lies, From the wicked who collect honors For their wonderful lies.
NOG O Yahweh, you will protect them. You will keep each one safe from those people forever.
NABRE You, O Lord, protect us always; preserve us from this generation.
NASB You, O Lord, will keep them; You will preserve him from this generation forever.
NCV Lord, you will keep us safe; you will always protect us from such people.
NET You, Lord, will protect them; you will continually shelter each one from these evil people,
NIRV Lord, you will keep needy people safe. You will always keep sinners from hurting us.
NIV You, Lord, will keep the needy safe and will protect us forever from the wicked,
NIVUK You, Lord, will keep the needy safe and will protect us for ever from the wicked,
NLV O Lord, You will keep us. You will keep us safe forever from the people of this day.
NLT Therefore, Lord, we know you will protect the oppressed, preserving them forever from this lying generation,
NRSV You, O Lord, will protect us; you will guard us from this generation forever.
NRSVA You, O Lord, will protect us; you will guard us from this generation for ever.
NRSVACE You, O Lord, will protect us; you will guard us from this generation for ever.
NRSVCE You, O Lord, will protect us; you will guard us from this generation forever.
OJB Thou shalt be shomer over them, Hashem, Thou shalt preserve him [see 5(6)] from this generation forever.
TPT Lord, you will keep us forever safe, out of the reach of the wicked. Even though they strut and prowl, tolerating and celebrating what is worthless and vile, you will still lift up those who are yours!
RSV Do thou, O Lord, protect us, guard us ever from this generation.
RSVCE Do thou, O Lord, protect us, guard us ever from this generation.
TLV You will keep us safe, Adonai. You will protect us from this generation forever.
VOICE You, O Eternal, will be their protector. You will keep them safe from those around them forever.
WEB You will keep them, Yahweh. You will preserve them from this generation forever.
WYC Thou, Lord, shalt keep us; and thou shalt keep us from this generation [into] without end. (Thou, Lord, shalt keep us safe; yea, thou shalt keep us safe from this generation forever.)
YLT Thou, O Jehovah, dost preserve them, Thou keepest us from this generation to the age.
Please allow me to give you a better example of what I meant. I am going to read your words so as to say what I will them to say, not that I really want them to say what they are going to say, but only just for this example.
You said this:
"Yes, there are many who read the text to say that the Lord will preserve "words"..."
Now I am going to interpret your words for you:
"Yes, there are many like myself who read the text to say that the Lord will preserve "words"..."
See? You suddenly agree with me! Yippie!
Or would it rather be that I had just deceived myself if indeed I did this?
genuineoriginal
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I see you have proved that taking the words out of context allows you to change the fundamental meaning of those words.
That is what the KJV Only people have done to Psalm 12:6-7 in order to claim that the Lord will preserve His words in Elizabethan English.
Where did God promise us a perfect book?
You've been shown, satanist, by me, George, others, but your daddy the devil keeps telling you to "Deny!!!!," and spam the above.
We smell your sulfur, child of the devil.
I have presented several errors to which you were unwilling or unable to respond.
I have provided chapter and verse.
For example, I asked if the centurion with the sick servant came to Jesus and spoke to Jesus (as Matthew says) or did not come to Jesus and did not come to Jesus and did not speak to Jesus (as Luke says).
But you could not answer.
Have you come up with an answer yet?
You seem to think “Word of God” and “Word of truth” mean Bible. That is not a scriptural position.
So, why can’t you answer a simple question about the centurion?
Chapter, verse, where the LORD God promised to preserve His word in any language, including a dead language, such as the Koine Greek, which most Greeks do not even speak.
I thought so.
Scam artist.
Matthew 24:14 KJV And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
You: All the world, in the future, will speak the same language!!!!!!!
You're a clueless, bible correcting moron.
No, satanist, you are just too stupid to understand the verse, so you flip the bird at the LORD God, asserting that He is a liar, untruthful,in His book, like you, satanist.
Chapter, verse, that asserts that scripture has errors, satanist.
Not a peep.
Chapter, verse, as I've asked you, where the LORD God commands that I answer any/all questions, especially from bible rejecting, bible correcting mystics/agnostics, satanists, like you.
Not a peep.
Look at the context, George:
Love never ends. But as for prophecies, they will come to an end; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will come to an end. 9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. 13 And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.
We don’t know fully. We only know in part.
Prophecies have not ended.
Tongues continue.
We still see in a mirror dimly, that is why we don’t all agree.
We don’t yet see face to face.
And I think it is obvious John W. doesn’t love me, as I love him and want him to do better.
So this time has not yet come.
John w. still speaks as a child, with tirades against those trying to speak the truth.
No, the time Paul described is yet to come.
No, but now you only confirm what I said, for it was an example to show you what you yourself are doing, for it was you who said, "let the scripture interpret itself" concerning this passage when there is no need for interpretation to begin with. And now you begin your comments with, "I see", which is exactly what I was talking about: *you see* what you wish to see but you have misinterpreted the logos-reasoning behind what I said. In the passage in question there is no pause or break in thought, (which would be denoted in the Masorete Hebrew text with either the letter sameck or the letter pe respectively, otherwise there really is not a form of punctuation), and therefore I can read it just as it is, without the verse numbering, even as one whole sentence:
"The words of the LORD are pure words, as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times: You shall keep them, O LORD,..."
There is no room for you to insert your interpretation into the text like you are doing.
No answer, I see.
genuineoriginal
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You are the one that believes God made that promise, so it is up to you to prove your belief is justified.
The word mistranslated in that KJV verse as "world" should have been correctly translated as "land", meaning the land of Israel.
The gospel was preached in all the land of Israel before the end came with the destruction of the Temple as prophesied in Matthew 24:2.
You seem to like making up lies about other people instead of debating the source of your mistaken doctrinal beliefs.
How silly you are!
Of course the writers did the best they could. They weren’t perfect.
I provided many passages showing the errors.
You apparently don’t want to deal with what the Bible actually says.
Why not answer the question about the centurion?
I treat satanists, wolves,the way the Lord Jesus Christ, Paul, Peter did.
And no, that which is perfect, in context, is the word of God, the scriptures, satanist.
Chapter, verse, moron, where scripture asserts that the "writers," scribes..........................were "inspired." And the LORD God is the author, satanist, and used, yes, "imperfect" men to preserve His scripture, idiot.
You're a pathetic moron, not knowing the difference between the book of Genesis, and the rock group of the same name.
Already did, child of the devil, despite your daddy the devil telling you to deny it. The scriptures has no errors-it is pure, true, sound, perfect.
No, bible corrector, the book/God is correct-you are wrong. "world" is correct.
Thanks for confirming that you are a bible corrector, not a bible corrector.
No, I correct satanists like yourself, that flip the bird at the LORD God, attempting to correct Him.