Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation

[Nang]

I don't hold with total depravity. I don't think it is a biblical doctrine at all, to start with. Furthermore, if it is really true that we are all born corrupt and evil through and through, then let's just go out and be as evil as we can. If it is our nature to be evil, then we should live true to our nature.

I hold to Total Depravity and IMO, all unbelievers live exactly as you suggest . . true to their unregenerate nature. They evidence spiritual bondage to sin, death, and the devil and that is why God sent His Savior to free many from this terrible condition.

 

[God's Truth]

Right - David did not obey.

1 Kings 15:5 For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not failed to keep any of the LORD's commands all the days of his life...

David obeyed, then sinned and was an example to our needing to repent and find forgiveness.

 

[God's Truth]

REPENTING OF OUR SINS IS OBEYING.

 

[God's Truth]

Repenting of our sins does NOT mean we no longer have to obey. Who would get such a twisted idea as that?

 

[Sonnet]

I hold to Total Depravity and IMO, all unbelievers live exactly as you suggest . . true to their unregenerate nature. They evidence spiritual bondage to sin, death, and the devil and that is why God sent His Savior to free many from this terrible condition.

The 'many' you speak of is 'all'.

Romans 5
18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Or are you going to prove that only many were made sinners.

 

[Sonnet]

They evidence spiritual bondage to sin, death, and the devil and that is why God sent His Savior to free many from this terrible condition.

Zero scripture explicitly teach what you claim. It's a shame to have to keep repeating it.

Put up or remain silent Nang...there might be a whole host of unbelievers out there reading your unsubstantiated version of scripture. You're telling them that Christ may have excluded them...your Gospel with practically no power of God unto salvation.

You're doing the opposite of the Great Commission.

 

[serpentdove]

I don't hold with total depravity. I don't think it is a biblical doctrine at all, to start with. Furthermore, if it is really true that we are all born corrupt and evil through and through, then let's just go out and be as evil as we can...

That makes more sense than coming to Christ and then walking away. :banana:

For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries (Heb 10:26–27). :burnlib:

 

[serpentdove]

REPENTING OF OUR SINS IS OBEYING.

Except for the fact each: that you don't obey (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

As a reminder God's Truth is number 39 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:

 

[Eagles Wings]

Zero scripture explicitly teach what you claim. It's a shame to have to keep repeating it.

Put up or remain silent Nang...there might be a whole host of unbelievers out there reading your unsubstantiated version of scripture. You're telling them that Christ may have excluded them...your Gospel with practically no power of God unto salvation.

You're doing the opposite of the Great Commission.

This coming from one who rejects Christianity.

You have been soundly rebuked.

You do not have ears to hear God's Word.

You ought to be kicked out of a forum that is explicitly meant for professing Christians.

 

[Sonnet]

Except for the fact each: that you don't obey (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

As a reminder God's Truth is number 39 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:

Don't you mean - Jesus is not God the Father?

 

[serpentdove]

Repenting of our sins does NOT mean we no longer have to obey.

Except for the fact each: that you can't obey because you are not indwelled with the Holy Spirit (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:

As a reminder God's Truth is number 39 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:

 

[Eagles Wings]

Except for the fact each: that you can't obey because you are not indwelled with the Holy Spirit (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:

As a reminder God's Truth is number 39 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:

Who keeps this list? B57 is not JW, so how much more is incorrect?

 

[serpentdove]

Don't you mean - Jesus is not God the Father?

That's right. This antichrist teaches that God puts on his Father hat, then his Son hat and then his Holy Spirit hat (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:

The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. When Jesus prayed in Gethsemane, he must have been talking to himself. :hammer:

“Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” Lk 22:42

 

[Sonnet]

This coming from one who rejects Christianity.

Denying that which scripture explicitly teaches and affirming that which it does not is the preserve of the unbeliever.

You have been soundly rebuked.

Here's where you did not respond thus failing to make any such rebuke.

#2238#2240

You do not have ears to hear God's Word.

Assertion.

You ought to be kicked out of a forum that is explicitly meant for professing Christians.

You might want to change the actual rules which permit those such as me.

 

[Sonnet]

This coming from one who rejects Christianity.

You have been soundly rebuked.

You do not have ears to hear God's Word.

You ought to be kicked out of a forum that is explicitly meant for professing Christians.

This instead of actually making a substantive argument as usual...

 

[serpentdove]

Who keeps this list? B57 is not JW, so how much more is incorrect?

Choleric

 

[Eagles Wings]

This instead of actually making a substantive argument as usual...

You reject the Gospel, then turn on and abuse those who are professing Christians.

 

[Cross Reference]

This coming from one who rejects Christianity.

You have been soundly rebuked.

You do not have ears to hear God's Word.

You ought to be kicked out of a forum that is explicitly meant for professing Christians.

Soundly rebuked?? For what? Disagreeing with you?

 

[patrick jane]

You reject the Gospel, then turn on and abuse those who are professing Christians.

You just better calm down eagles wings !! :chuckle:

 

[lifeisgood]

I am speaking about the ONE LAW OF LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR. You cannot love our neighbor unless you obey the whole law.

How convenient for you gt, to pick and choose which part of the Law to OBEY.

You are GUILTY OF THE WHOLE Law.

James 2:10 - For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.