what are you hiding?
program
- Thread starter chrysostom
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what are you hiding?
....not the fatted calf or the ring on my finger.
another example of how difficult dialogue is at tol
No real questions to answer.
I don't tend to repeat myself to the same poster. Or a simple google on the point would leave you with (link):
When the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America was formed in 1788, it adopted (with minor revisions) the Westminster Confession of Faith, Larger and Shorter Catechisms (1647), as its secondary standards (the Bible itself being the only infallible rule of faith and practice). Officers in the Presbyterian Church in America take a vow to “sincerely receive and adopt” these confessional documents “as containing the system of doctrine taught in the Holy Scriptures.”
IMJerusha
New member
Yes, because He is in all time at all time; that is how He has foreknowledge. The fact that He knows our choice doesn't take away our choice. He has always given His people a choice. Deut. 30:19 "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live..."
I chose this post freely
but
I have to admit
there is not much to choose from
so
it is true
my choices are limited
IMJerusha
New member
Oh come on, Tottie, you're playing a semantics game. DR means that we are free to believe in and obey Him or not. We MUST sin? We MUST die? Enoch proved that's not exactly so. Do we sin unintentionally? Yes. MUST we sin intentionally? NO. And Scripture does record a few not having died before God took them. We have choices. Belief in God is one of our choices. Obedience to God is another of our choices.
PROVE you have freewill, you are the great holiness teacher aren't you.
Stop sinning for a day [I was going to say week]
Surely with your belief in the need for holiness coupled with freewill you can manage that for the Lord's glory can't you?
IMJerusha
New member
I think life is filled with choices, but if you want to consider that we have only One God and One Way to Him, in that I'd have to agree with you!
IMJerusha
New member
You just did it for me. You didn't have to insult me but you exercised your free will to sin against God by sinning against a member of the Body. You chose to sin. Was it good for you?
In other words you are stumped
IMJerusha
New member
Only if you're blind and completely without conscience and we both know that's not so.
lain:
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
So we're limited........
So we're limited........
Such was my point. This limitation however does not negate our freedom to choose, since we still have such a power. Granted this...then our free will is limited. The opportunity of life or death in its various stages or ultimacy still lies within this limited context of our choices. Therefore, the full allowance and potential of our own choices are based upon our 'response-ability', maintaining that principle of 'sovereignty of will' and 'self-responsibility'. God is ever giving us the opportunity for all possibilities, either positive or negative, the full range of choice & consequence.
We can 'modify' programs to an extent.
pj
So we're limited........
Such was my point. This limitation however does not negate our freedom to choose, since we still have such a power. Granted this...then our free will is limited. The opportunity of life or death in its various stages or ultimacy still lies within this limited context of our choices. Therefore, the full allowance and potential of our own choices are based upon our 'response-ability', maintaining that principle of 'sovereignty of will' and 'self-responsibility'. God is ever giving us the opportunity for all possibilities, either positive or negative, the full range of choice & consequence.
We can 'modify' programs to an extent.
pj
Mocking You
New member
Thanks to the OP for the listings. A great resource for building my Ignore List.
what are you?
Mocking You
New member
I'm a laughing kangaroo.
Oh, do you mean what category would I fall on within your "program"?
good guess
Mocking You
New member
I don't see anything applicable. I suppose Baptist would come the closest, as I have attended Baptist churches in the past, now attending a non-denom. However, there are a wide range of Baptist beliefs so labeling someone a Baptist usually means you can only be sure of a couple of things - - believers water baptism by immersion, communion and baptism as symbolic and not a means of grace, religious freedom, separation of church and state.
great
now we are getting somewhere
I have a lot of respect for the baptists
I read their confession
and
I like it
so my question to you is
which of the following categories would you pick
protestant
evangelical
reformed