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How many relationships do you have that are one way, Tottie? The fact that God loves and wants us doesn't dismiss our free will; our ability to choose Him or not. He wants us to choose Him of our own free will.
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How many relationships do you have that are one way, Tottie? The fact that God loves and wants us doesn't dismiss our free will; our ability to choose Him or not. He wants us to choose Him of our own free will.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Checks and balances.....
Checks and balances.....
You know how 'weights' and 'measurements' go
Oh, on your way in or out, don't forget to consult the 'program' guide. Its all pre-scripted,...BUT...you're afforded some 'wiggle room' if you're a 'hot potato',...the rest of the 'frozen chosen',..well...they're kinda stuck in the mold.
Come to think of it, us 'warm' ones could be spewed out!, if we are neither 'hot' or 'cold',....I guess the 'wiggle room' isn't so spacious after all
:angel:
pj
Checks and balances.....
You know how 'weights' and 'measurements' go
Oh, on your way in or out, don't forget to consult the 'program' guide. Its all pre-scripted,...BUT...you're afforded some 'wiggle room' if you're a 'hot potato',...the rest of the 'frozen chosen',..well...they're kinda stuck in the mold.
Come to think of it, us 'warm' ones could be spewed out!, if we are neither 'hot' or 'cold',....I guess the 'wiggle room' isn't so spacious after all
:angel:
pj
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
The age-old free will debate............
The age-old free will debate............
Where can a choice be made outside of, or beyond any influences whatsoever? While we appear to have 'free will',....its ALWAYS within a certain circumstantial context, a particular environmental field, is it not? Therefore it is not entirely or totally 'free', but limited in some respects. The choice itself or power to choose is 'free' in its own right, but always within certain parameters.
pj
The age-old free will debate............
Where can a choice be made outside of, or beyond any influences whatsoever? While we appear to have 'free will',....its ALWAYS within a certain circumstantial context, a particular environmental field, is it not? Therefore it is not entirely or totally 'free', but limited in some respects. The choice itself or power to choose is 'free' in its own right, but always within certain parameters.
pj
he said he belongs to Presbyterian church that uses the Westminster Confession of Faith
I told him that would make him an Anglican
and
I don't think he liked that
There's a Presbyterian church that doesn't? :think: Likely Californian.
And I noted you're a Catholic that believes in reincarnation.
I think that makes you a Hindu.
I think
you like to do that (infer a level of personal investment)
and
I think that is telling.
lain:rumour has it he's a lawyer
There's a Presbyterian church that doesn't? :think: Likely Californian.
And I noted you're a Catholic that believes in reincarnation.
I think that makes you a Hindu.
I think
you like to do that (infer a level of personal investment)
and
I think that is telling.
hey!
nang is interested in your beliefs
and
she knows how hard it is to get real information out of you
so
I was just trying to help her out
God knew Judas would be damned when psalm 69 was written...that is He always knew.
I know that some who oppose openness theology say that it amounts to the same thing because only a few get to be saved whichever way you look at it.
In a way I agree but open theism is so much tastier. Not all biscuits are the same.
Calvinist biscuits taste bad and look awful. A lot of people find them hard to swallow. Catholic biscuits taste bland but they are nicely decorated, which makes them popular, especially amongst folk who don't really care much about what they are eating. Openness biscuits taste great and are averagely decorated.
In openness you are as sure as is reasonable to be about your eternal destiny. In Calvinism you are not sure at all. Or rather one half of you is sure and the other half of you is petrified in case you aren't saved at all. In Catholicism, you aren't all that sure but you also aren't all that bothered because you have purgatory to fall back on.
In openness you are as sure as you can reasonably be because you are free to reject God if you really want to but otherwise you know that you are completely secure in the arms of the living God. It's that freedom that gives your salvation its delightful taste.
Howdy!
That's funny. She's literally never asked me a direct question about them. Odd, isn't it.
So do you. Why a long while back you wanted to know who I voted for in a Presidential election. It took a Herculian effort. I think it went something like: who did you vote for in the last presidential election?
Why of course you were.
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Howdy!
That's funny. She's literally never asked me a direct question about them. Odd, isn't it.
So do you. Why a long while back you wanted to know who I voted for in a Presidential election. It took a Herculian effort. I think it went something like: who did you vote for in the last presidential election?
Why of course you were.
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you didn't confirm whether or not your church uses the westminster confession
Confession of Faith
Confession of Faith
Confession of Faith
does your religion have one?
The Baptist Confession of Faith (1689)
The Lutheran Confessions
The Westminster Confession of Faith
Confession of Faith
Confession of Faith
does your religion have one?
The Baptist Confession of Faith (1689)
The Lutheran Confessions
The Westminster Confession of Faith
What do you mean man is free to reject God? he HAS rejected God. That is the point which is overlooked. But God has not rejected man.
....Man is in bondage, he MUST sin, he MUST die. these facts govern the whole of man's existence at the present time.
Man's only hope is God have mercy....and He does
don't we have to repent?
If God has mercy
Unless has God has mercy we can't repent.....
Judas repented
Judas repented
are you going to repent?
If I had repented like the prodigal in the bible...would I have been there and then received? Or like the man in the temple would I there and then have gone home justified?
Or would I have to wait until I died?
There were 2 men in the temple, mercy was availiable....
Or would I have to wait until I died?
There were 2 men in the temple, mercy was availiable....