Porn. The Elephant in the room.

Jamie Gigliotti

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Addiction is not caused by the existence of these chemicals or the circumstances of their effect. It is caused by an inability to control our reaction to them. Just as with the excitement induced by gambling, extreme sports, and other human activities that cause our brains to produce these chemicals.

The problem is the inability to control our reactions to them, not the chemicals themselves, nor the stimuli that induces them.

Again, you're not addressing the real problem, and you're proposing we deny everyone access to aspects of life that only a few among us cannot control their reactions to. And you don't have that right.

The real problem is not having the power of the Holy Spirit, to avoid the temptations, the natural addicting nature of submitting to the temptation. I've already addressed that. So there are two issues one needing Christ, the second is the evil that is infecting many through Porn.
 

Ktoyou

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Somebody here said only those with prior mental illness can be obsessed and addicted to porn. People that are sociopaths like Ted Bundy as one example, porn is evil in the hands of evil. The question is, can porn change normal people into obsessed addicts ?

No. porn cannot change normal people.

Ted Bundy was not a sociopath; he did not have any history of childhood conduct disorder. and he was not a social misfit, he was a psychopath. Big difference
 

Jamie Gigliotti

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No. porn cannot change normal people.

Ted Bundy was not a sociopath; he did not have any history of childhood conduct disorder. and he was not a social misfit, he was a psychopath. Big difference

Normal as in control by the flesh? Controlled by the flesh and then introduce porn to masses of teens controlled by it. We now have an epidemic of evil.
 

Ktoyou

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Normal as in control by the flesh? Controlled by the flesh and then introduce porn to masses of teens controlled by it. We now have an epidemic of evil.

You must be a little nuts.

I am relatively normal and have seen one playboy magazine, the one with Marlin Monroe.

My four children are normal; they my have looked at these magazines, especially the boys (remember, there was playgirl then) and it was no more than a teenage to young adult distraction.

I have several grandchildren, none who have been anymore affected by the same.

Beyond this, I worked in Texas prison system, few were there for porn, or few rapists were found to have been motivated by porn. The porm effects a small minority of sexually abnormal persons who are fearful of human sexual relations, the same as those who had sexual fetishes; they are usually more social misfits than criminals.

Pornography is an issue taken up by some of the Christian Right, and then taken out of context. The few cases are made to be portrayed as normal and the standard reaction for all, even though only the 'vulnerable' persons are twisted by it. This is the same tactic used so often by liberals; they take to worst situation and state it is the norm. This is all part of the 'political correct' nonsense; taking the extreme, and then stating it as the norm, so all have to mind the new rules for the few extremely stupid.
 

Ktoyou

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Here is how PC works.

We have one case of a Negro slave beaten; all Negro slaves were beaten like this.View attachment 23781

We have a case of a man shooting many persons with a gun, all persons will shoot people with guns.

We have a case of a person who claims porn lead him to murder, all persons who view porn will murder.


It is always the same, take the worst case and make it the norm. This is what many people are sick of today, and I don't blame them!
 

Jamie Gigliotti

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Here is how PC works.

We have one case of a Negro slave beaten; all Negro slaves were beaten like this.View attachment 23781

We have a case of a man shooting many persons with a gun, all persons will shoot people with guns.

We have a case of a person who claims porn lead him to murder, all persons who view porn will murder.


It is always the same, take the worst case and make it the norm. This is what many people are sick of today, and I don't blame them!

They are having a summit because the research is showing the damage Porn is causing. Thank God it hasn't effected no one in your family negatively, but that is probably unlikely. It is done in secret.
 

Jamie Gigliotti

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Here is how PC works.

We have one case of a Negro slave beaten; all Negro slaves were beaten like this.View attachment 23781

We have a case of a man shooting many persons with a gun, all persons will shoot people with guns.

We have a case of a person who claims porn lead him to murder, all persons who view porn will murder.


It is always the same, take the worst case and make it the norm. This is what many people are sick of today, and I don't blame them!

I think this post will offend people.
 

Crucible

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They are having a summit because the research is showing the damage Porn is causing. Thank God it hasn't effected no one in your family negatively, but that is probably unlikely. It is done in secret.

I'd like an example of 'damage', because the only case I know of personally, within my circle, is this:

A friend of mine's brother looked at pornography. His wife had found it on his PC, and upon the discovery, went exactly as a person would after finding out their significant other was having an affair.

The man sold his Xbox, his PC, and the entire family literally split for months- this was entirely due to his crazily religious wife.

Pornography didn't do the damage- she did. She's the one who wasn't satisfying him, has extreme control issues, and for being religious, can't see her own wrong in it all.
But people aren't going to all see it that way- as per usual, the man just takes the big whip in the back and denounce an external object.


You can't fix some sort of 'porn problem' in society without fundamentally changing the gambit of society whose entire gender mingling is built on vanity.
 

Rusha

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I'd like an example of 'damage', because the only case I know of personally, within my circle, is this:

A friend of mine's brother looked at pornography. His wife had found it on his PC, and upon the discovery, went exactly as a person would after finding out their significant other was having an affair.

The man sold his Xbox, his PC, and the entire family literally split for months- this was entirely due to his crazily religious wife.

Pornography didn't do the damage- she did. She's the one who wasn't satisfying him, has extreme control issues, and for being religious, can't see her own wrong in it all.

But people aren't going to all see it that way- as per usual, the man just takes the big whip in the back and denounce an external object.


You can't fix some sort of 'porn problem' in society without fundamentally changing the gambit of society which has an entire function of vanity.

Of course you will blame a woman for her HUSBAND turning on his computer and scouring the internet for pornography. Using your standard, if she cheats, it's his fault for being controlling ... and unappealing.
 

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Of course you will blame a woman for her HUSBAND turning on his computer and scouring the internet for pornography. Using your standard, if she cheats, it's his fault for being controlling ... and unappealing.

With people like you, it's never a wife's fault if the husband does something or behaves a certain way, but it's also never the wife's fault if she does the same- the man is either at blame or must be made to just obediently take it.

I'm pretty tired of the same nonsense spewed over and over on every subject of men, women, and marriage. There is never compassion for the man, and the fault always has to be 100%, affirmatively and without one letup, straight on his head- and women lap it up.

It's despicable the conflict of interest within these things. The simple fact is that if a man is watching pornography, it is almost certainly because his wife is not doing her part AS A WIFE- but you scourge, solely, the husband.
 

Rusha

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With people like you, it's never a wife's fault if the husband does something or behaves a certain way, but it's also never the wife's fault if she does the same- the man is either at blame or must be made to just obediently take it.

Once again, you are projecting. I never make excuses for a women to initiate violence OR cheat on their husbands or significant other. There is not one example on TOL in all of your years of posting where you have ever stated "he was wrong".

I'm pretty tired of the same nonsense spewed over and over on every subject of men, women, and marriage. There is never compassion for the man, and the fault always has to be 100%, affirmatively and without one letup, straight on his head- and women lap it up.

The nonsense you are identifying is ... your own. Neither partner (the wife OR the husband) have a valid excuse for cheating or violence.

It's despicable the conflict of interest in within these things. he simple fact is that if a man is watching pornography, it is almost certainly because his wife is not doing her part AS A WIFE- but you scourge the husband for not being a saint.

Or perhaps he is just a pervert ...

Using your standard, if a wife cheats or watches pornography, *he* is not doing his part AS A HUSBAND.
 

patrick jane

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It's scientific fact that men are more visually stimulated than women. Men like to see, unless the woman is objectionable -
 
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