Paul: "If Christ be not raised your faith is in vain and you are still in your sins"

beloved57

beloved57

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patrick jane said:
False teachers like Nanja and nang want to feel like they are part of a special select group that is saved, and they didn't need to hear and believe
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You are promoting salvation by works, by what a person does, for hearing and believing are things men do.
 
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Nanja said:
A person can't be saved by anything they do, according to the scriptures Eph. 2:8-9; Rom. 8:7-8.
If it's something you do while still carnal Rom. 8:8, yes, it's a work of the flesh Is. 64:6!

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The words "Believe", "Believed", "Believest", "Believeth", "Believer", appear in the Bible over 330 times. It is a very subjective word because it pertains to what some one does.

Jesus used the word over 100 times. Many times he said "Whosoever" that believes in me shall not perish.
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
The words "Believe", "Believed", "Believest", "Believeth", "Believer", appear in the Bible over 330 times. It is a very subjective word because it pertains to what some one does.

Jesus used the word over 100 times. Many times he said "Whosoever" that believes in me shall not perish.
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Unless one has been Born of God, his own believing is a work of the flesh Rom. 8:8; putrid in God's Sight Is. 64:6!
 
Nang

Nang

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Brother Ducky said:
Another poster implied that Calvin authored the Canons.
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The genesis of the "five points of Calvinism" issued forth via the Synod at Dordt, gathered to challenge and rebut the heretical doctrinal (five) points made in opposition to the Reformed Faith, by the Arminian Remonstrants, not too long after the demise of both Calvin and Arminius.

I cannot name one biblical argument, nor conclusion of the Synod at Dordt, that Calvin would have denied, even though he was not the author of this most blessed ecclesiastical work and declaration.

Nang
 
Crucible

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Robert Pate said:
The words "Believe", "Believed", "Believest", "Believeth", "Believer", appear in the Bible over 330 times. It is a very subjective word because it pertains to what some one does.

Jesus used the word over 100 times. Many times he said "Whosoever" that believes in me shall not perish.
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Which has absolutely no bearing against Calvinism.

You do not choose what you believe- this goes for everything, not just God. Belief is something that is beyond your control.

Until you all recognize that truth, you will never begin to understand predestination theology.
 
Epoisses

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Crucible said:
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Which has absolutely no bearing against Calvinism.

You do not choose what you believe- this goes for everything, not just God. Belief is something that is beyond your control.

Until you all recognize that truth, you will never begin to understand predestination theology.
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Belief is something beyond your control seeing you fail at it so miserably.
 
Sonnet

Sonnet

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Crucible said:
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Which has absolutely no bearing against Calvinism.

You do not choose what you believe- this goes for everything, not just God. Belief is something that is beyond your control.

Until you all recognize that truth, you will never begin to understand predestination theology.
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Please provide a scripture that says that, 'You do not choose what you believe'.
 
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