Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the Worlds (plural) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Albert Einstein learned the SAME thing. He learned that matter and energy were the same. In order to make matter, it takes energy to produce matter in physical form. Then, you will have things which are seen, but made from things which do not appear to the eye.
Then again WHERE did the energy to make 3 Universes come from, you might ask. Below is the answer for it tells us where God lives:
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Can you tell us HOW ancient men, who lived thousands of years before science, knew that?
Of course not. It took men thousands of years before Albert Einstein discovered that Scientific Fact.
It's PROOF of God...... who Authored the Book of Genesis. :e4e:
Sure, you are reading things into the redacted creation story that aren't there in justification for bibliolatry. And there is only one universes.
All of the people who say God wrote the Bible, instead of the holy men of church government, have numerous competing theories about what it actually says. We often see these sorts of fruit cake hypothesis in justification of the findings of science that discredited the Hebrew story of thier origins.Yeah right, you could have fooled us.
The Bible is God's Word. Would you have us take your's, instead? Present your facts, or everyone will see that you are just whistling in the wind.
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Yeah right, you could have fooled us.
The Bible is God's Word. Would you have us take your's, instead? Present your facts, or everyone will see that you are just whistling in the wind.
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All of the people who say God wrote the Bible, instead of the holy men of church government, have numerous competing theories about what it actually says. We often see these sorts of fruit cake hypothesis in justification of the findings of science that discredited the Hebrew story of thier origins.
I find your knowledge of Scripture woefully lacking. Perhaps you should read it, instead of listening to others.
Ive read the story's and the many contorted theories of bible worshippers, each one claiming to have the only right, special way of explaining the many erroneous claims of the holy men. Yours is just one of many however you do get points for being more bizarre than usual.
No... that is your heretical words.2Pillars said:The Book of Genesis tells us that God has but 7 Days.
God defines the creation days in Gen. 1:5 " And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day".2Pillars said:At the end of the 6th Day or Age
I prefer to believe what God said to Adam before sin entered the world... "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so."2Pillars said:....there has NEVER been a time when ALL animals were vegetarians.
Nonsense. Ex.20:11 "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."2Pillars said:The Prophecy of Genesis 1:29-30 has NOT yet happened, which means that we remain in the 6th Day.
Adam began to die physically. The Hebrew is sometimes translated as 'dying, you shall die'. If physical death was not the penalty for sin then Christ did not need to suffer physical death. His death becomes meaningless with your heretical belief system.2Pillars said:When YHWH, the Son of God, told Adam that he would surely die IN THE DAY he disobeyed. Adam did Not die physically within 24 hrs. for he lived to be 930 years old, as shown in Gen 5:5.
Adam certainly was dead spiritually. He was now eternally separated from a Holy God. God provided a way for spiritually dead people to be restored to Himself through the shedding of innocent blood.2Pillars said:Adam did not die Spiritually because God doesn't make mistakes and those who are born Spiritually are born Eternally.
Dear Readers,
The Book of Genesis tells us that God has but 7 Days. He has 6 Creative Days in which He labors to bring His Creation to Perfection. At the end of the 6th Day or Age, God gives man to eat of Every tree, including the Tree of Life (Rev 22:2). God also gives ALL animals to eat herbs as meat. (Gen.1:29-30)
This Prophecy is Future because mankind has NEVER eaten of Every Tree and there has NEVER been a time when ALL animals were vegetarians. The Prophecy of Genesis 1:29-30 has NOT yet happened, which means that we remain in the 6th Day.
When YHWH, the Son of God, told Adam that he would surely die IN THE DAY he disobeyed. Adam did Not die physically within 24 hrs. for he lived to be 930 years old, as shown in Gen 5:5. Adam did not die Spiritually because God doesn't make mistakes and those who are born Spiritually are born Eternally.
Did Satan tell A&E the Truth, and YHWH lie to them? There is only One way the LORD can be right, and that is for Today to be the 6th Day.
All mankind has lived and died on the present 6th Day of Creation. God will Not rest until His Creation is made Perfect... Only then, on the 7th Day, God will rest and cease from ALL his work which He created and made.
Isa 46
v9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, v10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
The 7th Day has No Evening and No End = Eternal.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
I don't understand why many Religionists and Pretenders would also like to have the 7th Day of Rest to the people of God to End and have 24 hrs/day .... in order to force feed their Distorted Ancient Traditional Goat Herder's view of Genesis? Why? :bang:
Oh well..... May the good Lord share you more wisdom and understanding.
God Bless
Dear Readers,
Below, is my original Quote which 6days could NOT Refute Directly without Maliciously Editing the Thrust of the Context of the Message into Disproportion -- to form his own made up premises for his fallacious argument. (ref: his post #90)
Only person like 6days will have the audacity to do such thing... like blatant dishonesty and misrepresentation other people' quotes.
What a shame, isn't it? Therefore, not worthy of rebuttal.
Dear 2Pillars,
I read what you have to say and it is confusion. You're being deceived by Satan. It's not the first time that he has tried this one. 6days is correct with what he says, and if you were smart, you'd follow after 6days and learn from him what IS Truth. Don't get upset with me. I am only the messenger.
Much Love, In Christ,
Michael
Is that right?
Ok.. here's your challenge. Tell us the knowledge that you acquired reading the Scripture. We have a few seconds. I promise not to laugh....too much. :darwinsm:
Jesus believed scripture and was a 'young earther'. He didn't try spin what scripture says as you do to incorporate secular ideas of billions of years. Ex.2Pillars said:Like most young earthers, 6days cannot use Scripture to support his opinions.
Dear Michael,
Of course, I am not upset with you... not at all. In fact, I am glad that you are concern about me.
However, God is with me... that is exactly why No one here is capable of REFUTING what I have asserted, in all honesty, using the Scripture.
That's my challenge to everyone!!!
Like most young earthers, 6days cannot use Scripture to support his opinions. He can only use his interpretational methods of misrepresentation and distortions which don't agree with Scripture, Science, nor History. He base his allege "proper interpretation" on their own goat herder's traditional view of old, which is also flawed.
If he is that gullible, then I have some prime swamp land that I am sure he would be interested in seeing. His personal interpretation is Not supported by Scripture.
I would recommend that to you STUDY what I have posted here on this thread with Open Mind and cross reference them to the Scripture. Then, you will see that I am telling you the Truth.... simply because, it's based on God's Truth.... and not my own version.
BTW, I am also a messenger of God's Truth.
Isa 42:16 KJV And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
God Bless
How about if we just trust what God says without your spin.2Pillars said:Before the first Day, God created the Heaven (Air) and the Earth (ground) without form and darkness/death was upon everything He had made apart from Him, so God said: Let there be Light. Gen 1:1-2 KJV
Day 1- Jesus came forth into the physical world to defeat the darkness which was upon everything God had made. His Image is brighter than the Noonday Sun. Gen 1:3 KJV
How about if we just trust what God says without your spin.2Pillars said:Day 2- Jesus made a firmament or boundary of Adam's world and placed it in the midst or middle of the Water, and God called it "heaven". Gen 1:6-8 KJV
How about if we just trust the order God gives us without your spin and distortion?2Pillars said:Day 3- Jesus made Adam's Earth and another two HeavenS, but before He made the plants,He made man of the dust of the ground. Gen 2:4-7 KJV
No... He made the stars on day 4...but lets see what the Bible says without your additions to scripture.2Pillars said:Day 4- The first Stars of our 2nd Heaven put forth their light into our Cosmos, which began as the Big Bang (13.7 billion years ago), on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 KJV
Wow... That isn't very honest. Let's trust what God tells us.2Pillars said:Day 5- The heaven and the earth which are now is completed for inhabitation thereof. Every living creature that moves was created and brought forth from the waters by theTRINITY, on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 KJV
You add a whole lot into scripture to make it fit with your heretical beliefs. Lets see what God says happened on the 6th day.2Pillars said:Day 6- Jesus makes the beasts of the field and birds, Adam names them, and then Jesus makes Eve. Adam sins and is cast out from the Garden. A&E have two sons and Cain kills Abel. Seth was born... and during his generations, men started to call upon the name of the Lord (Gen 4:26 KJV)
Again you try add heretical ideas to scripture.2Pillars said:This brings us up to the present TIME, today, 2016 for God is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image or in Christ, TODAY.
The end of the present 6th Day is in the Future because the events of Gen 1:28-31 KJV are Prophecy of things which will not happen until AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of the present 6th Day. Isaiah 11 tells us that AFTER Jesus returns the Lion will eat Straw like the Ox. Isa 11:7 KJV
Again... you try and add to scripture. Lets look at the verse you mention and see if it says 7th day.2Pillars said:The 7th Day or God's Rest is FUTURE - No Evening and No End = Eternal. Heb 4:9 KJV
Dear Readers,
Here is the chronology of the 7 Days or Ages of Creation of the THIRD Heaven:.
Before the first Day, God created the Heaven (Air) and the Earth (ground) without form and darkness/death was upon everything He had made apart from Him, so God said: Let there be Light. Gen 1:1-2 KJV
Day 1- Jesus came forth into the physical world to defeat the darkness which was upon everything God had made. His Image is brighter than the Noonday Sun. Gen 1:3 KJV
Day 2- Jesus made a firmament or boundary of Adam's world and placed it in the midst or middle of the Water, and God called it "heaven". Gen 1:6-8 KJV
Day 3- Jesus made Adam's Earth and another two HeavenS, but before He made the plants, He made man of the dust of the ground. Gen 2:4-7 KJV
Day 4- The first Stars of our 2nd Heaven put forth their light into our Cosmos, which began as the Big Bang (13.7 billion years ago), on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 KJV
Day 5- The heaven and the earth which are now is completed for inhabitation thereof. Every living creature that moves was created and brought forth from the waters by the TRINITY, on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 KJV
Day 6- Jesus makes the beasts of the field and birds, Adam names them, and then Jesus makes Eve. Adam sins and is cast out from the Garden. A&E have two sons and Cain kills Abel. Seth was born... and during his generations, men started to call upon the name of the Lord (Gen 4:26 KJV)
Then God speaks AGAIN. Let US make man in OUR Image. Gen 1:26 KJV and Gen 5:1-2 KJV Adam and Eve were BOTH "created in God's Image" or In Christ. They were born again Spiritually, just as ALL of mankind MUST be born again in order to inherit the Third Heaven, the object of the 6 Creative Days.
This brings us up to the present TIME, today, 2016 for God is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image or in Christ, TODAY.
The end of the present 6th Day is in the Future because the events of Gen 1:28-31 KJV are Prophecy of things which will not happen until AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of the present 6th Day. Isaiah 11 tells us that AFTER Jesus returns the Lion will eat Straw like the Ox. Isa 11:7 KJV
Has everyone heard that the Lion will lay down by the Lamb when Jesus returns? Now, you know that it will happen TODAY, on the present 6th Age.
The 7th Day or God's Rest is FUTURE - No Evening and No End = Eternal. Heb 4:9 KJV
Isa 46:10 KJV Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Our God is an awesome God.
The grammar of Genesis 1 does not allow for anything other than a 24 hour day. The meaning of the English word 'day', and the Hebrew word for day 'yom' are always...always determined by context.2Pillars said:As I have posted before, a Day in Genesis is NOT based on 24 hours period of time.