Noah's Flood - The Mystery

2Pillars

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Dear Readers,

Fortunately, only willingly ignorant like 6days will always stumble to God's Truth!!!

In fact, it's simple to know if one's interpretation is correct. If it agrees with God's Holy Word, true Science, and History. It's as close to the One Truth as is Humanly possible.

The fault is Not with God's Truth, but with man's (i.e 6days) ability to understand it, for His thoughts are far above man's thoughts.

There’s not one Truth for Science; History; and another one for God. When we find proven discovery of Science and History, then, it will always agree with God’s Truth. That's why I seek the agreement of every other discovered Truth, to measure against God's Holy Word.

There is Only 1 Truth, and every other discovered Truth MUST agree with God's Truth or we have Not found the 1 Truth. When we all get together, in Heaven, we will come to know All of the Truth. Jesus told us "I am the Truth".

I can't wait to see Him face-to-face, how about you?

God Bless

Dear Readers,

God wrote the Bible with His terms, not ours.

In order to understand you MUST study to show yourself approved unto God. 2Ti 2:15 Below is one of my favorite verses.

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Unbelievers CANNOT understand Scripture because they don't have the Holy Spirit to guide them into God's Truth. 1Co 2:14 KJV This is because one MUST have the Gift of Faith from the Father. Eph 2:8-9 KJV *Not of our own works lest any man boast.

6days should stick to man's knowledge, since his understanding of Scripture is very poor.

:bang:
 

2Pillars

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Dear Open Minded Readers,

God tells us we live in a Multiverse composed of at least 2 or more Universes or Worlds.

Heb 11:3 KJV Through faith we understand that the Worlds (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

The first Heaven (Adam’ world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 KJV The third Heaven or World is forever. Rev. 22:5 KJV

The 1st Firmament Heaven, was the World of Adam's, which God called "Heaven". Gen 1:8 KJV. It was made on the 2nd Day.

The Big Bang or the beginning of our universe was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 Here are my views Scripturally.

Gen 2:4 KJV These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavenS,

The above verse is speaking of a certain Day, the Day the LORD God made Adam’s Earth and the other HeavenS (plural). The above verse is speaking of the 3rd Day, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made. Gen 1:9-10 KJV

How can we explain this? Did God make an error? Or is the Ancient Traditional Goat Herder’s Religious view is flawed? Which one?

There is no interpretation needed since Science has measured the time since the Big Bang at 13.7 Billion years ago, and God shows it was 3 Days or Ages ago, which means that EACH of God's Days is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time.

I like the Fact that Gen 2:4 shows that the Big Bang of our world was on the 3rd Day and the First Stars of our Cosmos did Not put forth their Light until the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 KJV

Science has recently learned that it took some 500 Millions of years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the 1st. Stars put forth their Light.

No Ancient Man could have possibly known this. Only God, the Supreme Intelligence of Creation, the Creator who CAN NOT LIE, would get these things scientifically correct, even today.

Our God is an Awesome God.

God Bless

Note: Insertions are mine for presentation and clarity.
 

6days

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2Pillars said:
6days should stick to man's knowledge, since his understanding of Scripture is very poor.
That is the logic the cults use to dismiss those who diagree with their spin on scripture. Notice that my reply to your spin on scripture is simply replying with scripture verses, which need little or nocomment from me.
Examples 1
6days said:
Jesus believed scripture and was a 'young earther'. He didn't try spin what scripture says as you do to incorporate secular ideas of billions of years. Ex.

Luke 11:50 "That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;
51From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias.."
'Young earthers' don't feel the need to explain away what Jesus or Moses said. Jesus said "But if ye believe not his ( Moses) writings, how shall ye believe my words?" John 5:47
The verses speak for themselves

Ex.2
2Pillars:"Before the first Day, God created the Heaven (Air) and the Earth (ground) without form and darkness/death was upon everything He had made apart from Him, so God said: Let there be Light. Gen 1:1-2 KJV
Day 1- Jesus came forth into the physical world to defeat the darkness which was upon everything God had made. His Image is brighter than the Noonday Sun. Gen 1:3 KJV
6days: "How about if we just trust what God says without your spin.
Day 1
6days: GEN.1:1-5 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darknesswas on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

2Pillars: "Day 2- Jesus made a firmament or boundary of Adam's world and placed it in the midst or middle of the Water, and God called it "heaven". Gen 1:6-8 KJV
6days:"How about if we just trust what God says without your spin.
Day 2
Gen. 1:6Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.
2Pillars
Day 3- Jesus made Adam's Earth and another two HeavenS, but before He made the plants,He made man of the dust of the ground. Gen 2:4-7 KJV
6days
How about if we just trust the order God gives us without your spin and distortion?
Day 3 Gen. 1:9 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 And God called the dry landEarth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw thatit was good.11 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree thatyields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
2Pillars
Day 4- The first Stars of our 2nd Heaven put forth their light into our Cosmos, which began as the Big Bang (13.7 billion years ago), on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 KJV
6days: "No... He made the stars on day 4...but lets see what the Bible says without your additions to scripture.
Day4
Gen. 1: 14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
2Pillars
Day 5- The heaven and the earth which are now is completed for inhabitation thereof. Every living creature that moves was created and brought forth from the waters by theTRINITY, on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 KJV
6days
Wow... That isn't very honest. Let's trust what God tells us.
Day 5
Gen. 1: 20 Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.”21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
2Pillars
Day 6- Jesus makes the beasts of the field and birds, Adam names them, and then Jesus makes Eve. Adam sins and is cast out from the Garden. A&E have two sons and Cain kills Abel. Seth was born... and during his generations, men started to call upon the name of the Lord (Gen 4:26 KJV)
6days:"You add a whole lot into scripture to make it fit with your heretical beliefs. Lets see what God says happened on the 6th day.
Day 6 Gen. 1:24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”


29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there islife, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeedit was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
 

6days

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2Pillars said:
There is no interpretation needed since Science has measured the time since the Big Bang at 13.7 Billion years ago, and God shows it was 3 Days or Ages ago, which means that EACH of God's Days is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time.
When you start with mans ideas rather than God's Word, the Gospel gets destroyed.

2Pillars..... Science has not measured time. What scientists measure is distance, then secular scientists reject what God tells us about time.
Clue for you.....When God created Eve from Adams rib...how old was she? How old did she appear?
 

2Pillars

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When you start with mans ideas rather than God's Word, the Gospel gets destroyed.

2Pillars..... Science has not measured time. What scientists measure is distance, then secular scientists reject what God tells us about time.
Clue for you.....When God created Eve from Adams rib...how old was she? How old did she appear?

Dear Readers,

The above statements are not true and distorted.

What true science and history could discovered and proven ... could only support the Scripture more, unknowingly.... becoming God witnesses of the Creation.

When the Scripture documented us that Eve was made from Adam's rib, science learned and have proven that "cloning" can only be done perfectly, if you are God!

Gen 2:23 KJV And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

On the contrary, Science does NOT destroy the Gospel of God.... Science does not even know, understand nor interested what the Gospel is...since, it has nothing to do with it.

Only willingly ignorant like people like 6days, would make such unfounded assertion.

What is True, however.... Science destroys the foundation of the False Theory and Traditional Doctrinal Faith of 6days Religious Denomination...which is based on wild imaginations of men and Goat Herder's Theology of old.

Tough luck.... :banana:
 

2Pillars

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Dear Readers,

Genesis one is the complete History of the 6 Days or Ages of God's Creation of the Perfect 3rd Heaven.

Genesis two tells us what happens AFTER God's Creation is completely finished or brought to perfection. For God to finish a work is for that work to be made perfect. If it's NOT, perfect, then it's NOT finished. That's God's Truth.

Gen 1:28 KJV And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Mankind has Never had dominion or rule over EVERY living thing as the Flu vaccine testifies. Polar bears, Sharks and Mosquitoes don't recognize that we rule over them because we have NEVER ruled them. After Jesus returns we will as Isaiah 11 KJV clearly shows.

The rest of Genesis one tells of what will happen after Jesus returns. Genesis 1:29-30 KJV tells us that EVERYthing with life will become a Vegetarian. This has NEVER happened in History because it's prophecy, as Isaiah 11:7 KJV shows when the Lion eats straw like the Ox.

When the present 6th Day ends, it will be because God has brought His Creation to perfection and filled it with a host of believers in Jesus Christ as Genesis 2:1 KJV Genesis one is the complete History of the 6 Days or Ages of God's Creation of the Perfect 3rd Heaven.

Gen 2:1 KJV ¶Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

When God's Creation has been brought to Perfection and filled with all of it's host, which includes ALL Christians:

Gen 2:2 KJV And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.

God rests from ALL of His work AFTER the Creation is brought to perfection and filled with the host of Heaven. Remember that the Trinity is STILL working Today, which means that God's rest from ALL of His work is Future. In order to confirm this, read the next verse:

Gen 2:3 KJV And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it (set apart) because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made.

At this point in time, it will be too late to be Created in God's Image or in Christ, Spiritually. If this had already happened in the past, then NO one would be saved because ALL of God's work would have long ago ceased. God will NOT rest until His Creation is brought to perfection and that is a long time from now because it is AFTER Jesus rules and reigns for a thousand years.

God Bless
 

Samie

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Funny, the verse is in the past tense:


Gen 2:1 KJV ¶Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Seems like it should have been "will be finished", as the thread author suggests.
 

2Pillars

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Funny, the verse is in the past tense:


Gen 2:1 KJV ¶Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Seems like it should have been "will be finished", as the thread author suggests.

Dear Samie,

Since God sees the End from the Beginning ref. Isa 46:10 KJV, He wrote the complete History of the Creation of Our Perfect Heaven in the first 34 verses of Genesis. It's amazing, isn't it!? .....

Our God is an Awesome God.
 

6days

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2Pillars said:
When the Scripture documented us that Eve was made from Adam's rib, science learned and have proven that "cloning" can only be done perfectly, if you are God!
Eve was not a clone of a man.
2Pillars said:
On the contrary, Science does NOT destroy the Gospel of God.... Science does not even know, understand nor interested what the Gospel is...since, it has nothing to do with it.
Uh... Well, science is a method of studying the world around us. Science can be a form of worship as we learn and understand the majesty of our Creator.

2Pillars said:
Genesis one is the complete History of the 6 Days or Ages of God's Creation...
Why would you add "ages" to what what God calls "days". It would seem you like your own words a lot more than God's Words. God through Moses could have used different words and context had He meant ages instead of days. Instead, the words, and context clearly define a normal 24 hour day.
Gen. 1:5 "God called the light "day" and the darkness "night." And evening passed and morning came, marking the first day."

James Barr, Professor of Hebrew Bible at Vanderbilt University, former Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford.
"Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that (a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience; .. Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the "days" of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological, and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by any such professors, as far as I know.".
 

Samie

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Dear Samie,

Since God sees the End from the Beginning ref. Isa 46:10 KJV, He wrote the complete History of the Creation of Our Perfect Heaven in the first 34 verses of Genesis. It's amazing, isn't it!? .....

Our God is an Awesome God.
Amazing, indeed. He says what He actually means.
 

way 2 go

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The 7th Day has No Evening and No End

the earth did not stop spinning on day seven

1 rotation of the earth = 1 day

Gen 1:5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
 

Interplanner

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Eve was not a clone of a man.

Uh... Well, science is a method of studying the world around us. Science can be a form of worship as we learn and understand the majesty of our Creator.


Why would you add "ages" to what what God calls "days". It would seem you like your own words a lot more than God's Words. God through Moses could have used different words and context had He meant ages instead of days. Instead, the words, and context clearly define a normal 24 hour day.
Gen. 1:5 "God called the light "day" and the darkness "night." And evening passed and morning came, marking the first day."

James Barr, Professor of Hebrew Bible at Vanderbilt University, former Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford.
"Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that (a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience; .. Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the "days" of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological, and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by any such professors, as far as I know.".


Just remember that the formless and void period was before the 1st day.
 

way 2 go

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Just remember that the formless and void period was before the 1st day.

you mean formless and void period was day one.

Gen 1:1**In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Gen 1:2**The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3**And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
Gen 1:4**And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.

1 rotation of the earth = 1 day

Gen 1:5**God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
 

2Pillars

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Dear Readers,

Genesis 1:1 is just a Preface or an Introduction -The Story of the "Beginning" of the Physical World.
Genesis 1:2 narrates us the condition of the deep (dark - void) before the world was.
Genesis 1:3 documents us the bringing forth of the Light before anything is made that was made;
Genesis 1:4 the division / separation of Light from darkness - the first work of old.
Genesis 1:5 The evening & the morning, the first day.

Notice: The heaven and the earth were still formless (dust) and void (empty) on the first day? The first formation of the PHYSICAL heaven took place only on the 2nd day (Gen. 1:6-8) - the world of Adam and our own physical heaven was made on the 3rd day.

Where do Unbelievers see that there was even a rotation of a Formless Earth on the 1st. Day? How could it be? There was NOT even a sun nor a moon that existed in the beginning of Genesis, until the 4th. Day!

Religionists teach that a Day is 24 hours in length but this is UnScriptural as shown by the Hebrew meaning of the word Day, which is the word "YOWM" in Hebrew.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

From Strong's Online Concordance:
yowm
Pronunciation
yōm (Key)
Part of Speech
masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From an unused root meaning to be hot
TWOT Reference
852
Outline of Biblical Usage
day, time, year
day (as opposed to night) 12 hour period
day (24 hour period)
as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
as a division of time
a working day, a day's journey
days, lifetime (pl.)
time, period (general)

See what I mean? A Day is a time period. Those who ignore the fact that a day can be 12 hours, 24 hours, a lifetime or any time period REFUSE to see that the 7th Day is Eternity.

They want it to be 24 hours but in order to define it that way they MUST ignore the Hebrew meaning for the word Day.

[Gen 2:1-3 KJV] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

I also don't see any documentation that there’s a Morning or Evening recorded on the 7th.Day of Genesis, do you? If it were not so, then, their only defense now is to remain willingly ignorant of God’s Truth.

No Morning and NO Evening = Age of Joy = Eternity. :banana:

God Bless
 
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Interplanner

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you mean formless and void period was day one.

Gen 1:1**In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Gen 1:2**The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3**And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
Gen 1:4**And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.

1 rotation of the earth = 1 day

Gen 1:5**God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.



No, it is before. If you compare Moses writing style, he does this a lot:
1, section title line
2, background description
3, action

Gen 1 is no different. v1 is not action. v2 is not action. The action is the 1st day which is 24 hours/1 rotation.
 

6days

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2Pillars said:
See what I mean? A Day is a time period. Those who ignore the fact that a day can be 12 hours, 24 hours, a lifetime or any time period REFUSE to see that the 7th Day is Eternity.
You are partially correct. The word day in Hebrew has various meanings, but is always clearly understood by context. For example we know that Jonah was not in the fish for 3 twelve hour periods.....nor for 3 ages. In Hebrew when a number is associated with the word day, it always refers to a 24 hour day. We can see many examples of this in scripture, and the meaning is always clear. In Genesis 1, the meaning is also made abundantly clear by the context......God created in 6 days....not 6 twelve hour periods, nor 6 periods of time.

Another way we can check context of the word 'day' in Genesis is that the words 'evening' and 'morning' are associated. Throughout the OT, there are numerous examples of those words with the word 'day'. It is not confusing.....always easy to understand.

There are other methods also from the Hebrew to help determine the meaning of 'day'. ( For example, the use of ordinal numbers).... But, in any case, 'day' is easy to understand in Hebrew and in scripture. We have to wonder why the foundation to the gospel is attacked so often. What is the source of confusion? Who wants us to believe that death, pain and suffering in our world existed before sin? Psalm 11:3 “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?”
 

6days

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No, it is before. If you compare Moses writing style, he does this a lot:
1, section title line
2, background description
3, action

Gen 1 is no different. v1 is not action. v2 is not action. The action is the 1st day which is 24 hours/1 rotation.
You then don'tbelieve in the first three words of the Bible...that the beginning was not the beginning? And was Jesus also confused as He associated humanity from the foundation of the world?
 

2Pillars

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See what I mean? A Day is a time period. Those who ignore the fact that a day can be 12 hours, 24 hours, a lifetime or any time period REFUSE to see that the 7th Day is Eternity.

They want it to be 24 hours but in order to define it that way they MUST ignore the Hebrew meaning for the word Day.

You are partially correct. The word day in Hebrew has various meanings, but is always clearly understood by context. For example we know that Jonah was not in the fish for 3 twelve hour periods.....nor for 3 ages. In Hebrew when a number is associated with the word day, it always refers to a 24 hour day. We can see many examples of this in scripture, and the meaning is always clear. In Genesis 1, the meaning is also made abundantly clear by the context......God created in 6 days....not 6 twelve hour periods, nor 6 periods of time.

Another way we can check context of the word 'day' in Genesis is that the words 'evening' and 'morning' are associated. Throughout the OT, there are numerous examples of those words with the word 'day'. It is not confusing.....always easy to understand.

The continuing topic is about the Creation Process and the meaning of God’ Creative Day (Yowm) in the Book of Genesis 1 - NOT about our present Man’s Time , i.e. Jonah and the Whale or Any other diversion tactics that you are trying to employ from the OT and NT.

Nice Try but No Cigar

The fact is you (6days) and the rest of your denominations are willingly ignorant when confronted with God’s Truth about the difference between God's Time and Man's Time in Genesis for comparison .

Scripture shows that God has but 7 Days or Age in the Book of Genesis 1 & 2 and Today is still the 6th Creative Day of God's Creation.

At the end of this 6th Day, Heaven will be complete, and all believers will be there After the Heaven is brought to Perfection. Then, God will rest for Eternity from All His work which He Created and Made in our Physical World. The 7th Day has No end = Eternity.

Man's time began on the 4th Day and depends on the movements of the Sun, Moon, and Stars. Since God is present, but also beyond this Universe, He is Not subject to the movements of our Stars. Man's time is temporal and will cease when this Universe is burned. God's time is Eternal.

There are other methods also from the Hebrew to help determine the meaning of 'day'. ( For example, the use of ordinal numbers).... But, in any case, 'day' is easy to understand in Hebrew and in scripture. We have to wonder why the foundation to the gospel is attacked so often. What is the source of confusion? Who wants us to believe that death, pain and suffering in our world existed before sin? Psalm 11:3 “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?”

6days, the source of confusion is you and your denomination' doctrinal Misunderstanding of the Genesis. You are repeating your flawed traditional Goat Herder’s Theology which is not shown Scripturally.

Notice that darkness/death was upon everything God created. Gen 1:2 KJV... You are confusing death coming to Adam (mankind) with the death which is STILL upon everything apart from God Himself. It's because you MUST be in God or in Christ, to survive this world - just so you know and for your additional learning. in case.

That’s exactly why YHWH, the Son of God, was brought forth into this physical world from the invisible realm of the Father, in the beginning (Gen 1:3) to give life to those physical matters Created Apart from God’s Spiritual Realm.

YHWH, the Son of God, provided the light in the beginning, because, in him (Son) was life; and life was the light of men (Jhn 1:4 KJV).
 
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Ben Masada

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The Mystery of the Noah's Flood as I am concerned is that it happened at a time when Israel had not arrived yet. I believe that if the Flood was to have happened after Abraham, Isaac and Jacob aka Israel, no more than ten righteous Jews would have prevented it from happening. Why do I believe so? Because, when Sodom and Gomorrah were about to be destroyed, Abraham had a vision when he would bargain with HaShem to save those cities from destruction. He started his "if's" with 50 righteous and all the way down to ten in the hope that the Lord would withdraw His hand from destroying those cities. There were not 50 righteous, neither all the way down to ten. And it was from here that came the Jewish Middrash of ten righteous Jews to prevent any catastrophic event akin to the Flood. That's when the Jewish Minyan was organized. Now, the revelation of the secret of the Flood is in the putting together of the following texts: Genesis 8:21,22; Jeremiah 31:35-37 and John 4:22. Reading the whole text, Jesus himself implied that if there were at least 10 Jews on earth at the time of the Flood, it would have not happened. Why? Because, as he himself said, "Salvation comes from the Jews." (John 4:22)
 

2Pillars

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....... Reading the whole text, Jesus himself implied that if there were at least 10 Jews on earth at the time of the Flood, it would have not happened. Why? Because, as he himself said, "Salvation comes from the Jews." (John 4:22)

Yes and No.... Here's what our Jewish Apostle Paul had to say about that....

Rom 11:11 KJV I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy
Rom 11:28-33 KJV As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
v29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
v30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
v31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
v32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
v33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

God Bless
 
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