Maricopa county ballot audit begins today
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Derf
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In one sense your standards haven’t changed, and that’s where you require more in terms of evidence of those you disagree with than you’re willing to supply yourself, or to require of those you listen to. That’s a form of confirmation bias, and we all do it to some extent.
But confirmation bias is a form of constantly changing standards—what you do not allowed to your opponents, you cling to yourself, so your standards change about every post or two, requiring in one post “irrefutable evidence”, while not expecting it of yourself in the next (or same) post. Thus you propagate falsehoods in the name of fact-checking. As do many of your sources. And you still don’t require irrefutable evidence of them.
I might add that refuted evidence is much worse to offer, which you’ve done, while refutable evidence is perfectly ok to start with. That’s why we have a court system that hears both sides, usually, though “lack of standing” is a way of saying, “I don’t need to hear both sides.”
Derf
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This is a sad commentary, and with it my mission with this discussion is complete.
It’s not always for the addressee that a post is written, but in this case, it was. Because I feel like you are intelligent, I was hoping to show you how you’ve gone wrong, in hopes of some sort of repentance. Now you’re telling me not to hope for such.
I’ve answered a fool according to his folly. Now it’s time to not answer a fool according to his folly.
Arthur Brain
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They haven't changed at all Derf. Sure, we all have some sort of bias but that needs to be tempered with rationality. For example, I wasn't a fan of Trump winning the election in 2016. However, he did. I'd have been no fan of the opposition attempting to cry 'foul' or promote pointless allegations of chicanery or fraud and the like. Thankfully, they didn't. Clinton conceded the results and that was that.
That's what it should have been with the last election as well. There was no foundation for any of these pointless and baseless assertions of fraud and such. Allegations themselves can be given short shrift when there's no base to them. That's what's happened.
Arthur Brain
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Well, that wasn't egotistical or patronising at all...
Still, your call though I'd choose a better mission next time as well as ways of coordinating it.
AB, I'd gladly give the Democrats a full investigation into the January 6th incident with no obstructionism if the Democrats would give the Republicans a full investigation into potential voter fraud with no obstructionism. Full transparency from both sides. Sounds like a Democrat's nightmare doesn't it?
Arthur Brain
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What happened on Jan 6th is already on record and many of those responsible for the events arrested. Not really any need for transparency, it was see through as it was. The same with these fraud allegations. They're baseless, embarrassing even to many Republicans but these 'investigations' are still being allowed aren't they?
I think if this transparency trade were offered, the Republicans would jump at it and the Democrats would reject it. Don't you agree?
Arthur Brain
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No, the transparency in regards to both is there for all to be seen. Probably why Republicans are distancing themselves further and further away from what's going on.
An update to the Maricopa County audit.
So far 6 states have sent delegations to the audit to see how it is being done: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Alaska, Wisconsin, and Virginia. It's now been announced that nine more states are going to be sending delegations to learn how to audit their elections too.
theconservativetreehouse.com
So far 6 states have sent delegations to the audit to see how it is being done: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Alaska, Wisconsin, and Virginia. It's now been announced that nine more states are going to be sending delegations to learn how to audit their elections too.
Chairwoman Kelli Ward Provides Update on Arizona Ballot Audit, and NINE States are Traveling to Arizona to Learn About Forensic Audit Process - The Last Refuge
This is an interesting 'behind the scene' update for those who are following the process.
theconservativetreehouse.com
Derf
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It certainly indicates that having the person in charge of the election mechanizations is NOT the person to oversee the audit--and legislatures across the country are waking up to that fact, thankfully.An update to the Maricopa County audit.
So far 6 states have sent delegations to the audit to see how it is being done: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Alaska, Wisconsin, and Virginia. It's now been announced that nine more states are going to be sending delegations to learn how to audit their elections too.
Chairwoman Kelli Ward Provides Update on Arizona Ballot Audit, and NINE States are Traveling to Arizona to Learn About Forensic Audit Process - The Last Refuge
This is an interesting 'behind the scene' update for those who are following the process.
Derf
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I like seeing states taking back their sovereignty.
Sadly, the wicked who conspired to disrupt the Jan 6 Congressional hearings on voter fraud succeeded in disrupting those hearings and blaming the disruption on Trump supporters. Lying devils are getting away with murder, insurrection, and willful destruction of America as a God-fearing nation of free and civilized people.
Arthur Brain
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The blame squarely lies with the MAGA crowd as evidenced with the arrests. They were hardly 'civilized' people.
Your erroneous biased opinion is based upon wicked leftist lying democrat propaganda.
Arthur Brain
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No, it's based on factual evidence but I can see how you confuse the two.
You don't have evidence or you would explain how hundreds of thousands of unverified ballots for Biden could have been counted when they did not have the required chain-of-custody documents and were counted in the absence of required oversight by poll watchers. Hundreds of thousands of undocumented ballots for Biden suddenly showed up late at night after polls closed and were counted in the absence of required observers, miraculously flipping the election from Trump to Biden.