ECT Madists are closet Calvinists

[Cross Reference]

Two different kingdoms.
Israel - which they inherited through natual birth.
Heaven - which is inherited through spiritual birth.

Either kingdom was/is entered by striving __ with continued warfare against any possibility of excommunication by futile/vain thinking against the 'LAW' of the Kingdom.. . . like mother church has done.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


Our belief is required.

 

[Cross Reference]

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


Our belief is required.

Your continued belief is required __ with prescribed evidence of intimate relationship..

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Your continued belief is required __ with prescribed evidence of intimate relationship..

How much evidence?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

How much evidence?

Enough to satisfy CR! He'll continue to keep an eye on your
behavior and decide when you've "proved" yourself to his
satisfaction! LA and Nang will be watching you/us, as well!

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Enough to satisfy CR! He'll continue to keep an eye on your
behavior and decide when you've "proved" yourself to his
satisfaction! LA and Nang will be watching you/us, as well!

I'm sure, but I'm only concerned about the Righteous Judge.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I'm sure, but I'm only concerned about the Righteous Judge.

Yep!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The surest way to failure is to try and please "EVERYONE!"

 

[Cross Reference]

How much evidence?

If you have ask, you lack any of it because it is a process.

 

[Cross Reference]

I'm sure, but I'm only concerned about the Righteous Judge.

You should be

 

[Cross Reference]

Yep!

you, too.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If you have ask, you lack any of it because it is a process.

You sure like to make judgments about others! Are you related
to the infamous LazyA?? The only difference between you two is,
he loves to make predictions about his fellow posters. Especially,
relating to, "Death Predictions!"

 

[Cross Reference]

You sure like to make judgments about others! Are you related
to the infamous LazyA?? The only difference between you two is,
he loves to make predictions about his fellow posters. Especially,
relating to, "Death Predictions!"

By your stupid reply, what are you doing?

 

[heir]

How can you reject what you've never received?
If you are the one doing the believing, it's through your faith not God's.

You can't receive a gift you've rejected.

 

[heir]

And all of that explaining redemption ___ Ergo, NOT unconditional salvation.

redemption is not in the context, salvation by grace is.

 

[Cross Reference]

redemption is not in the context, salvation by grace is.

There could be NO salvation without redemption, redemption being the only foundation upon which it can only stand. That is 101 stuff.

 

[heir]

Why don't you reply to post #123??? __ <chicken>.

The tiny prep. "IF" is used over 7000 times in the KJV Bible. 3000 + in the NT alone. Madist', Calvinist' and the like seem to have taken to themselves, by preferring them, translations of the Bible that have omitted the one's that present a problem for them. Here is an example of just one passage, BY PAUL, none of you have had the guts to reply to, having been repeatedly asked to do so:

"And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister" Colossians 1:21-23 (KJV)

In addition, for the MAD minds, kindly read what follows in yellow. Note that it was preached to every creature and He was [only] a minister of it.. Every creature under heaven??? How could that have been by Paul alone?? Answer: It couldn't have been by Paul alone.

[emphasis mine]

That should flush your toilet if you will be honest with yourselves. But I have no hope for that in me simply because of the times we live in Jesus spoke of in His warnings to His disciples.

I absolutely believe that Israel had an "if/then" relationship with God. If they did this, God would bless them with that/if they didn't do this, God would curse them with that.

The word "if" where we are concerned and in Colossians has NOTHING to do with salvation. It's about being grounded and settled. It's about reward...

 

[heir]

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


Our belief is required.

simple.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I absolutely believe that Israel had an "if/then" relationship with God. If they did this, God would bless them with that/if they didn't do this, God would curse them with that.

The word "if" where we are concerned and in Colossians has NOTHING to do with salvation. It's about being grounded and settled. It's about reward...

Good post as usual!

 

[heir]

If you have ask, you lack any of it because it is a process.

Salvation is only a "process" to those who think they can merit salvation/save themselves and keep themselves saved while the saved have a seal (Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV). Contrasts!