Judge OK’s Petition for America’s First ‘Genderless’ Person

[ok doser]

And a reason a woman would be attracted to another woman is simply the natural exception ...

not sure what you mean by "the natural exception", but i'm curious to see how it doesn't also encompass pedophilia, beastophilia, etc

 

[ok doser]

Heterosexual men in prison view their homosexual acts as being "situation specific" and do not consider themselves bisexual. These men describe how they imagine being with a woman while taking part in sexual activity with a male inmate. During masturbation, they picture past sexual experiences with women.[9] They take part in homosexual activity due to having no “heterosexual outlets”.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#cite_note-:0-6

One heterosexual man said that he had sex with gay or bisexual prisoners “out of necessity” and had resumed exclusive heterosexual relationships since leaving prison: “I’m completely straight. What happened then was just about having my sexual needs met, in a particular time and place where I couldn’t get [heterosexual] sex.” https://www.theguardian.com/society...sex-in-prison-exposed-by-howard-league-review

 

[ok doser]

now, back to my question:

so it's your contention that those men who have identified as heterosexual throughout their whole life prior to entering prison and who choose to commit homosexual acts while in prison, and who return to their heterosexual lifestyle after being released from prison are what?

 

[glassjester]

Or they can see just fine, they just want to feign otherwise, rather than admit a hypocritical position.

Yes, that's also possible.

 

[glassjester]

If a man finds himself attracted to another man, be it in prison or anywhere else, then there's bisexual tendencies there at least. This whole 'prison scenario' keeps coming up as if it's usual for straight guys to suddenly develop these attractions. How many straight men, do you suppose, have no interest with any sort of sexual intimacy with another male prisoner while in incarceration?

Good questions.

According to this book, 86% of women and 65% of men in prison engage in homosexual activity. Do you think 86% of women and 65% of men are bisexual or homosexual from birth?

 

[ok doser]

The reason behind me being attracted to men, is that heterosexuality is the default position. (male-female with parts that fit together so children can result)

it's normal

society should recognize it as normal

instead, society is telling kids growing up today that everything is normal


society should be ashamed of itself

 

[ok doser]

Good questions.

According to this book, 86% of women and 65% of men in prison engage in homosexual activity. Do you think 86% of women and 65% of men are bisexual or homosexual from birth?

to head off artie's predictable dismissal of the author/editor:

Christopher Hensley is director of the Institute for Correctional Research and Training and assistant professor of sociology at Morehead State University. https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=19163586468

 

[glassjester]

instead, society is telling kids growing up today that everything is normal

And that every habit is inborn.

 

[ok doser]

Who exactly are these people who identify as straight before going to jail and then commit homosexual acts while there? This whole 'argument' is more of a rabbit trail than anything. Do you think that straight men have homosexual urges or voluntary experiences in prison or something?

you didn't deny their existence here: http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-Sex-Service&p=4280456&viewfull=1#post4280456

 

[quip]

Heterosexual men in prison view their homosexual acts as being "situation specific" and do not consider themselves bisexual. These men describe how they imagine being with a woman while taking part in sexual activity with a male inmate. During masturbation, they picture past sexual experiences with women.[9] They take part in homosexual activity due to having no “heterosexual outlets”.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#cite_note-:0-6

One heterosexual man said that he had sex with gay or bisexual prisoners “out of necessity” and had resumed exclusive heterosexual relationships since leaving prison: “I’m completely straight. What happened then was just about having my sexual needs met, in a particular time and place where I couldn’t get [heterosexual] sex.” https://www.theguardian.com/society...sex-in-prison-exposed-by-howard-league-review

Thus there's no choice to be had. :idunno:

We've been over this doser.

 

[ok doser]

Thus there's no choice to be had. :idunno:

We've been over this doser.

yes, we have

there's the choice to refrain from homosexual activity

and there's the choice to engage in homosexual activity

two choices



unfortunately, you appear to have availed yourself of the choice to eat paste

 

[quip]

not sure what you mean by "the natural exception", but i'm curious to see how it doesn't also encompass pedophilia, beastophilia, etc

All distinctions you need to learn.

It's called curing yourself of ignorance....give it a whirl.

 

[ok doser]

All distinctions you need to learn.

It's called curing yourself of ignorance....give it a whirl.

define "the natural exception"


if you can



and lay off the paste for a while - you've had enough

 

[quip]

yes, we have

there's the choice to refrain from homosexual activity

and there's the choice to engage in homosexual activity

two choices

Not if you harbor the natural desire to have sex....with no more than men at your disposal.

Read your own quote: :chuckle: One heterosexual man said that he had sex with gay or bisexual prisoners “out of necessity” and had resumed exclusive heterosexual relationships since leaving prison

unfortunately, you appear to have availed yourself of the choice to eat paste

Was that witty...I couldn't tell?

 

[ok doser]

Not if you harbor the natural desire to have sex....

if you harbor the natural desire to have sex, you can't choose to refrain?

do you, quip, harbor the natural desire to have sex?

are you having sex right now?

 

[quip]

define "the natural exception"


if you can



and lay off the paste for a while - you've had enough

X is the natural default position....Y is the natural exception to X.

Not too difficult?

 

[quip]

if you harbor the natural desire to have sex, you can't choose to refrain?

do you, quip, harbor the natural desire to have sex?

are you having sex right now?

Do I have to have sex 24/7/365 to be able to answer?

Do I have to abstain from sex 24/7/365 to be able to answer?

 

[ok doser]

Do I have to have sex 24/7/365 to be able to answer?

Do I have to abstain from sex 24/7/365 to be able to answer?

are you refraining from sex at this moment?

 

[ok doser]

X is the natural default position....Y is the natural exception to X.

Not too difficult?

difficult enough if you can't define Y


but i sense you're only interested in playing the fool :idunno:

 

[quip]

are you refraining from sex at this moment?

No, I'm on the computer with you.

If you mean...am I currently having sex, again no.