Jesus is God.
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Elia
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Don't hold your breath...
"For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God for ever and ever."
Micah 4:5
marhig
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I never said there isn't three, there is three, God, Christ and the holy spirit. I said Jesus isn't God. Because it shows clearly in the Bible that God is the God of Jesus!
marhig
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I know! And they say that I have false teaching for believing in the only true God. Which Jesus himself taught!
God the son and triune God and trinity are false teachings put together by a group of men who couldn't work out who Jesus and God are so they came up with the false teaching of the duality and then of the trinity. So unless anyone shows me where it is in the Bible, I won't believe it! Written just like that. God the son, triune God, trinity. If people can't show me, then don't tell me that I believe in false teaching when even the apostles called God, the God of our lord Jesus Christ!
I believe in the only true God and i believe in one God only, not three in one, the almighty living God is God and he is the God of everything and everyone including, Jesus Christ the son of the living God whom God has sent!
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That depends on what you mean by "die".
He actually went to the realm of the dead during that time and preached to the souls there: 1 Peter 3:19
Yes he is. That's is 2,000 year old Christian truth. Denying Christ's divinity places you outside of Christianity. Maybe you should become a JW.
Your mom?
"Your mom"? Ouch!
But regarding your other comments there are 300 years between a 2000 year old truth and a 1700 year old lie.
LOL. You and I know wherehe was going with that, right?
I assume you mean Nicea. You know I disagree with you. Besides, scripture plainly describes Christ's divinity as well as his humanity. Why do you think all theologians, be they Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox, plainly see Christ as God in scripture? They all got it wrong for all these centuries?
For the same reason the Ethiopian Church has been admonished not to read John 1:1 the way it actually reads in their own Ethiopian (Ge'ez) Text which predates any of your own manuscripts and codices. That is to say, because they all wish to remain part of the "club", (of Rome).
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This is what Paul was also attempting to convey in Eph 5. Read it while keeping John 17:3 as a 'backdrop'.
OMT: This all relates perfectly to Rev 12:5 both corporately and individually [personally/subjectively as you being the manchild].
A more profound understanding is that it is not be believing but, intimate relationship; "knowing" as in intercourse, Jesis is speaking of.said:
This is what Paul was also attempting to convey in Eph 5. Read it while keeping John 17:3 as a 'backdrop'.
OMT: This all relates perfectly to Rev 12:5 both corporately and individually [personally/subjectively as you being the manchild].
Seriously? You think that anti-Catholics like Jimmy Swaggart and others like him all wish to remain part of the "club", (of Rome)? That's the best you've got?For the same reason the Ethiopian Church has been admonished not to read John 1:1 the way it actually reads in their own Ethiopian (Ge'ez) Text which predates any of your own manuscripts and codices. That is to say, because they all wish to remain part of the "club", (of Rome).
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If the father and son are in perfect agreement/union, responsibility, decisons in giving or taking in the execution or loving of a thing, irrespective of whose idea it was, are they not equal? Before you answer please define the word "equal" to yourself as in it being a unit of measure.
lifeisgood
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Only for those who are lost.
Unlike the OT where Yahweh says over and over again "I am God, and there is none else" (Isaiah 43:10-13, 44:6-8, 45:5-6, 46:9-11), Jesus never once said those words. Not once did he say, "I am God." Since the God of the Hebrew Bible says it repeatedly why didn’t Jesus ever say it, at least once, especially when this is so crucial to Christian doctrine?
http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/q_jesus_claiming_deity.htm
"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen." Romans 9:5
"while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ," Titus 2:13
"But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’" Hebrews 1:8
"Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:" 2 Peter 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth… No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known." John 1:1, 14, 18
Yes, God is One:
Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our Eloheem[PLURAL] is one[SINGULAR] Jehovah.
However, there are three in the Godhead:
From the FIRST (from the BEGINNING) I (the ONE SENT) have not spoken in secret, from the time it took place (when it ALL happened), I (the ONE SENT) was there. And now the Lord GOD (the Father) has sent Me (the Son), and His Spirit(the Holy Spirit)." Isaiah 48:12-16
And no, the word 'Trinity' is not found in the Bible, but the principle is.
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Moses was called the Deliverer, a type of Jesus Christ. The whole account being a type of redemption, salvation and the bringing of mankind, into the Presence of God for preparation for entering 'eternity'. . . not to be confused with the "Promised Land" that had to taken by force by God.
Questions: Was Moses, God? 2. Why do you suppose God chose to act through man in order to accomplish what we both know He could have accomplished without man in the picture?
lifeisgood
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Never heard the man be against Catholics or otherwise.
Now, the false doctrine of worshiping and kissing man-made statues and pictures, etc., and walking in one's knees for who knows how long until the knees bleed, while kissing the dirty floor, etc., yes. I do also talk about their false doctrine.
I also have heard him talk against false doctrine in the Pentecostal, Evangelical, Methodist, etc. churches. I do also talk about their false doctrine.
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If the fullness of the Godhead was in a man what would that man be?
Prizebeatz1
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Now you are not even following your own original train of thought and simply trying to be misleading.
You said: "They all got it wrong for all these centuries?"
How many centuries old do you suppose Jimmy Swaggart is? And for that matter, who cares? Not me, but you did not "hear" what I said. Go find out what Coptic John 1:1 actually says and ask yourself why the Coptic Church does not read it for what it actually says in their own Coptic language which predates all of your manuscripts and codices. Have you never heard of Origen? Maybe not since your own fathers anathematized him at the Second Council of Constantinople for believing and teaching what Coptic John 1:1 actually says. :crackup:
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lifeisgood
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Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our Eloheem[PLURAL] is one[SINGULAR] Jehovah.
From the FIRST (from the BEGINNING) I (the ONE SENT) have not spoken in secret, from the time it took place (when it ALL happened), I (the ONE SENT) was there. And now the Lord GOD (the Father) has sent Me (the Son), and His Spirit." Isaiah 48:12-16
You do not believe your own Tanach rejecting your Suffering Servant.
Where is the altar where you offer your lamb to cover your sin?
Who is your high priest that your lamb can be approved for sacrificing?
Where is your Temple where you must go three times a year?
You are a very religious man, Elia, but very UNsaved exactly as the ones who demanded that Jesus the Christ, the Suffering Servant, be crucified because He did not fit their idea of God's Savior.
lifeisgood
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Israel is as lost as you are, Elia, for Israel is NOT the Suffering Servant and Israel has rejected her Suffering Servant because she rejected God's way as He did not fit with her desire. How many times does not the Tanach shows how rebellious Israel is.
So, meanwhile, where is your altar?
So, meanwhile, who approves the lamb for covering your sin?
So how do you obey the command to go three times a year to the Temple?
Where do you offer the sacrifice for your sin?
You are UNcovered before Y-H-W-H presence because you REject Y-H-W-H provision which is Jesus the Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our Eloheem[PLURAL] is one[SINGULAR] Jehovah.
From the FIRST (from the BEGINNING) I (the ONE SENT) have not spoken in secret, from the time it took place (when it ALL happened), I (the ONE SENT) was there. And now the Lord GOD (the Father) has sent Me (the Son), and His Spirit." Isaiah 48:12-16
You do not believe your own Tanach rejecting your Suffering Servant; therefore, without an Altar, a Sacrifice, and a Temple, and that’s for starters.
You are a very religious man, Elia, but very UNsaved exactly as the ones who demanded that Jesus the Christ, the Suffering Servant, be crucified because He did NOT fit Israel's desire of God's Savior.
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