True to form you did not answer the question of who actually carried the cross to the crucifixion: was it Simon Kurenaios who carried the cross, as the three Synoptic Gospel accounts record? or was it Yeshua himself who carried his own cross, as the Gospel of John records? And as for the answer which you did give, concerning Roman time, it was not your own answer but rather the same old numbskull response that such people as yourself run and get from the internet wilderness every time the question is asked. You now show that you truly do not care how much your every response creates even more confusion and contradiction than the questions which were asked to begin with. You apparently have no problem turning Yeshua into a Roman so long as you get to keep your happy go lucky paradigm and continue along your merry way. There are certain statements made that must comply with Torah and one such statement concerns time keeping, (John 11:9). However if such a statement concerns Roman time keeping then it neither glorifies God, (as the passage says) nor does it honor the time keeping laid out in Torah which is based around sacrifices, incense offerings, and prayers. Was the tenth hour of John 1:37-39 Roman time keeping, as you say, and thus 10:00PM at night? And it only gets worse from there on throughout. Was Yeshua wearied from his journey in John 4:3-6 at 6:00AM Roman time or was it 6:00PM Roman time? You necessarily must say 6:00PM so as not to show yourself a complete buffoon. But even so, if you say John 4:6 is 6:00PM Roman time then you have switched the hour of prayer which occurs every day at the sixth hour, just before the midday turning of the seventh hour, and the seventh hour comes to pass in the very same passage with the statement from John 4:23. Then in John 4:52 we read of a remote healing at the seventh hour, which in Roman time keeping would necessarily be 7:00PM from that vantage point, which is outside of the given twelve hours of the day. The same twelve hours of the day from Torah are reinforced in the statement of John 11:9. However, if the statement of John 11:9 concerns Roman time keeping, then some of the things done in the previous passages contradict the plain statement from John 11:9 because it places Yeshua in the midst of a journey at 7:00PM Roman time in John 4:3-6 and walking at what should be considered the night according to Hebrew time reckoning, being outside of the given twelve hours of the day. Even the remote healing of the fever in the very same passage occurs in the seventh hour, which would have been 7:00PM in Roman time keeping, and outside of the twelve hours of the day in the time reckoning which is prescribed in Torah. If the author of the Gospel of John is using Roman time keeping then it causes Yeshua himself to violate Torah elsewhere in the account by the statements attributed to him from the author, and your "Lamb of God" is thus disqualified as a possible Messiah candidate for having broken the Law, and as already shown from previous posts in this thread; you too are yet another among many eating scapegoat which you found out in internet wilderness with all the sins upon its mortally wounded head because you care not to answer the difficult questions and force yourself to realign your doctrine accordingly. :chuckle:
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