FOR GRACE GOSPEL BELIEVERS ONLY.

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Are you a fair weather Christian or Hebrew?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

True, but I am not saying they have to, only that God judges us all by the same standard whether it is the Law in commonality or the life of Jesus Christ as a demonstration of how we are to live and where we have fallen short.

What? Did you just make that up?

 

[glorydaz]

No. I am Jewish but not a Jew and some of the commands might be seen as having to do with becoming a Jew. I don't wear tzit-tzit.

So that's a what? A wanna be Jew?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Either one is saved by Grace or is an unbeliever headed for judgement and Hell.

 

[Jacob]

You're a fence sitter Un. Pick one: Christian or Jew and stick with it.

I was a Christian first, but now I am both Jewish in belief and practice and still a Christian. I was not born a Jew. If a Jew is not different from being or living Jewish according to God's Law or in accordance with the new covenant then it should be stated that a Jew is a Jew by birth in terms of ethnicity (a word to describe this) different from a Jew is a Jew by birth so long as they do not leave the faith (the one true religion of Judaism is the religion of all Jews, whether practicing or not).

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Un, if ya wanna be a Jew, ya better start following the law 100%. That means
from your birth until the day you die.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I was a Christian first, but now I am both Jewish in belief and practice and still a Christian. I was not born a Jew. If a Jew is not different from being or living Jewish according to God's Law or in accordance with the new covenant then it should be stated that a Jew is a Jew by birth in terms of ethnicity (a word to describe this) different from a Jew is a Jew by birth so long as they do not leave the faith (the one true religion of Judaism is the religion of all Jews, whether practicing or not).

Man alive, you are truly mixed up!

 

[Jacob]

You asked, "Is this Jewish or Christian?" I asked you what Jew realizes what Paul wrote there. Now, you have to answer my question before I can respond to your next question.

You see, Untel, I have learned that you love to ask questions that are simply a bit....how shall I say this.....foolish.
So, you need to figure out a way to communicate because what you're doing isn't working out for you. :think:

I'm not trying to communicate what I am doing. You are asking me about it. I have no problem answering you until you have been answered to your satisfaction. But your question was answered by me. Timothy was both a Jew and a Christian. He was a believer in the Messiah, Yeshua (Jesus is the Messiah) or in other words He believed in Jesus Christ. He qualifies as a Jew who realized what Paul wrote there.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Eternal life isn't yours if you don't become a member of the Body of Christ
in this Dispensation of Grace.

 

[Jacob]

Are you a fair weather Christian or Hebrew?

No, I am a "sold out" Christian believer. Jesus is my Messiah, whether I have an ounce of Hebrew or Jewish blood in me or not.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I'm not trying to communicate what I am doing. You are asking me about it. I have no problem answering you until you have been answered to your satisfaction. But your question was answered by me. Timothy was both a Jew and a Christian. He was a believer in the Messiah, Yeshua (Jesus is the Messiah) or in other words He believed in Jesus Christ. He qualifies as a Jew who realized what Paul wrote there.

What??

 

[Jacob]

What? Did you just make that up?

I just wrote it. But I have thought about what God's standard is. It is either the Law or the life of Christ or both.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You can't be a Jew and a gentile. You're either saved or unsaved in this Dispensation.

 

[Jacob]

So that a what? A wanna be Jew?

No. No one has ever pressured me to be a Jew. Jesus was a Jew, and judging from the life of Jews I have come across in this world there is much to be appreciated from Jews, even those who are not fellow believers.

 

[Jacob]

Either one is saved by Grace or is an unbeliever headed for judgement and Hell.

Yes, that is true. The lake of fire is the destination for all who do not believe in God and trust Christ as their Savior. Jesus is Lord.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I just wrote it. But I have thought about what God's standard is. It is either the Law or the life of Christ or both.

If you think it's the law, you best get at it??

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If you were to die this evening, where would your soul go and why?

 

[heir]

This thread was immediately derailed by an anti-Pauline adherent!

I finally get to your thread and it's been ruined.

 

[Jacob]

Un, if ya wanna be a Jew, ya better start following the law 100%. That means
from your birth until the day you die.

No one can observe the Law perfectly. That does not mean no one can observe the Law. Meaning, if you have sinned in one thing you have broken God's Law and the punishment is death according to God's design and decree. The Law points out sin. There was sin and death as it's consequence before the Law even. But the point is Romans 6:23 (see Romans 3:23). Jesus is the only one never to sin.

I see no reason to not obey God's commands. But obedience to God's commands saves no one.

So, whether or not a person should obey God is a different question from whether or not they have ever broken any command found in the Law.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

When a child of God dies, they go to Heaven. When an unbeliever dies, they
go to a place of torment until the Judgement seat of God.