CherubRam
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Holy Spirit is a name title for Yahwah our Father. In about the third century it became a Catholic teaching that Holy Spirit is a third person. Do you support that manmade Catholic doctrine Stan?
Do you have to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian?
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RevTestament
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Perhaps he is thinking of these verses?
Isa 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
15 Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
The concept of plural deity had been around among the tribes that were confederated under Abaraham but in the battle with other Gods monotheism needed to stick with a strict knee person concept of the God of Israel.
Jesus revealed that we are actually grandchildren, that God has a creator Son. The Jews didn't know this.
Jesus revealed that we are actually grandchildren, that God has a creator Son. The Jews didn't know this.
RevTestament
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Actually, Jesus revealed the Father to us as His Son, and that we are His brethren, and yet that He inherited His name, and became the author of our salvation.
I support the doctrine IN the NT Cherub. Not everything comes from the RCC as you seem to feel. It is NOT a tile, it is WHO He is. ANOTHER Advocate, to replace Jesus on earth. Our Comforter.
Is 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Very good, now continue to read EVERYTHING about the nature of God.
If you really believe EVRYTHING Jesus said then why call anyone else but God your father? Why is it NOT blasphemy to speak against the Father and the Son, but it IS to speak against the Holy Spirit?
Basics that you never deal with oatmeal. All you do is strive about words, but you never link them all up and SEE what they are telling you.
Then SHOW us how it is neither.
You assume God's title of father is a physical one. What did Jesus say about this? Read Matt 23:9 (NIV)
Now go from there and figure it out.
What do you think I have been doing?
Dan Emanuel
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John 14:6 KJV. When you pray the Our Father/Lords Prayer, you should be thinking of Jesus.
Daniel
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What is the true mystery friend?
Colossians 1:27 Modern English Version (MEV)
27 To them God would make known what is the glorious riches of this mystery among the nations. It is Christ in you, the hope of glory,
In or at. And even in doesn't mean inside especially with biblical language.
Do you have to know the nature of what you believe? Yes, we must know who God is. So you must believe in the Trinity to be a Christian.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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So... You'll be telling us all the intricate details of God's fontal plenitude and innascibility, along with all the minutiae of Opera Ad Intra and Opera Ad Extra regarding the paternity and filiation of the Son, and the spiration and procession of the Holy Spirit.
I'll be looking forward to that delineation; as will everyone else, I'm sure. Get to it. This should be a great insight into you "knowing who God is".
But actually...No. It's merely distilled dogmatic conceptual ideology to you and the majority, whether they're Trinitarian or not. It's sad.
keypurr
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I do, I follow his advise and pray to his God.