ok doser
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Oh for goodness sake, will you please stop whining and try to enjoy yourself?
Could You Train Yourself To Enjoy...
- Thread starter Arthur Brain
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Oh for goodness sake, will you please stop whining and try to enjoy yourself?
ok doser
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again, he's missing the point of the thread - that one can choose to learn to like something that they don't automatically
glassjester
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Eh... he called you cranky. That's some pretty minor trolling.
Anyway, I intended no insult by responding.
I found it relevant that parents often do instruct children to try to enjoy themselves.
And I don't think they mean it figuratively. People are capable of trying to enjoy things.
Arthur Brain
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I automatically hated the stuff since childhood. Further acquaintance with it didn't help, I still hate the stuff. No choice in that for either me or you I would venture. The development of the palette and brain isn't the issue here. I used to have more of a 'sweet tooth' as a kid and in adulthood I prefer savoury foods overall and enjoy several ales I would have balked at as a kid. With music, it was a case of what was already there developing and a pursuit of music that would 'hit the spot' which was never going to happen with generic pop music. If you can't understand why it bores me by now I don't know what to tell you.
Arthur Brain
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He pretty much has to be minor about it these days as he's gone over the benchmark that many times he'll end up having to come up with yet another username and account if he gets another ban...so maybe now you get the drift?
I'm not saying that people aren't capable of trying to enjoy things. Of course they are. You don't need to convince yourself you aren't going to enjoy a steak in custard once you already know it isn't going to appeal however.
Those Beatles started a lot of trouble
glassjester
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Do you think they ever succeed?
glassjester
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Great music, though!
Arthur Brain
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Sure. I didn't enjoy going on roller coasters until I got over the fear of them and gave them a go.
Trying to tell me I can try to 'enjoy' liking bland music when I'm drawn to stuff that's interesting is hardly the same thing however.
ok doser
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glassjester
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Sounds about right.
Arthur Brain
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No, and if you're just gonna quote SOD all the time instead of directly with me then what's the point? I didn't "choose" to enjoy roller coasters once I'd plucked up the courage to give them a go. I just did. I'm not good with heights and I wanted to overcome that at least to some degree. I could never be a steeplejack by way of. What any of this has to do with being able to musically enjoy what is personally as boring as a stationery roller coaster is anyone's guess.
ok doser
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Oh for goodness sake, will you please stop whining and try to enjoy yourself?
was it your choice to pluck up your courage and give them a go?
Same as the Monkeys
glassjester
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glassjester
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Yikes. "All the time" ?
Because you made the conscious choice to try to enjoy something.
You had a reason to try to like roller coasters (you wanted to conquer your fear of heights).
If you had a reason to try to like Beyonce, maybe you'd be capable of that, too.
ok doser
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Arthur Brain
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It's enough of the time GJ and especially when you can just as easily quote me directly and entirely on point.
There isn't, short of pretending to like it for some underlying motive that is not the same thing. The reasons why I enjoyed 'The Rite' were because of it's groundbreaking harmonies and rhythms, the colours that so many sounds brought about and in many pieces since including the tonal through to the outright abstract and dissonant in many a different genre. How in the heck am I supposed to find some bland pop song appealing on any musical level? Do you think taste can 'devolve'?
glassjester
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I know that tastes can change.
And I know that those changes can come about due to factors that you have control over.
I don't see how taste can "devolve." That would imply that taste can be better or worse, which I don't think it can.
That phrasing (the word devolve, specifically) makes it seem that you think people who like pop music somehow have "worse" taste than you. If you do have that perception, that would be a big reason for you not wanting to enjoy that type of music.