Then you will perish.
"God so loved the world (everyone) that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16.
Since you do not believe, you will perish.
Are You a Judaizer?
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Then you will perish.
"God so loved the world (everyone) that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16.
Since you do not believe, you will perish.
Elia
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Love is a very small part of the law.
"Serve Y-H-W-H! And if it seems evil to you to serve Y-H-W-H, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell.
But as for me and my house, we will serve Y-H-W-H!”
Joshua 24:14-15
Elia
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Both these "great commandments are from the law of Moses, see Deut 6:5 and Lev 19:18.
"But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body.
The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: FEAR GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, because this applies to every person. For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil."
Ecc 12:12-14, New American Standard Bible
Elia
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God also has no father, no son, and no brother.
There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H.
"Serve Y-H-W-H! And if it seems evil to you to serve Y-H-W-H, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell.
But as for me and my house, we will serve Y-H-W-H!”
Joshua 24:14-15
Elia
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No he is not. There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god:
Deuteronomy 4:35 “You were shown these things so that you might know that Y-H-W-H is God; besides him there is no other.”
Deuteronomy 4:39 “Acknowledge and take to heart this day that Y-H-W-H is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.”
II Samuel 7:22 “How great you are, O Sovereign Y-H-W-H! There is no one like you, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears.”
I Kings 8:60 “so that all the peoples of the earth may know that Y-H-W-H is God and that there is no other.”
I Chronicles 17:20 “There is no one like you, O Y-H-W-H, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears.”
II Chronicles 6:14 “O Y-H-W-H, God of Israel, there is no God like you in heaven or on earth.”
Nehemiah 9:6 “You alone are Y-H-W-H.”
Isaiah 45:21-23 “You are my witnesses," declares Y-H-W-H, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me."
Isaiah 44:6 “This is what Y-H-W-H says- Israel's King and Redeemer, Y-H-W-H Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.”
Isaiah 45:5-6 “I am Y-H-W-H , and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me."
Isaiah 45:21-23 “Declare what is to be, present it- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, Y-H-W-H? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.”
Joel 2:27 “Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am Y-H-W-H your God, and that there is no other;”
Exodus 20:1-3 “And God spoke all these words: "I am Y-H-W-H your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.”
Elia
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He and the Father that is TWO (2), and not one.
Everybody who can count to two understands that the above statement of them (plural) being one is nonsense.
It's like saying the sky is green and the grass is blue.
"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.' Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?"
Jeremiah 16:19
Elia
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The same holds true for the NT.
"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.' Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?"
Jeremiah 16:19
Elia
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By adopting the law of God.
The law of Moses = also the law of God.
"Thus says Y-H-W-H: ‘In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”
Zech 8:23
Elia
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That logic only works if the NT is true, but it isn't.
"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.' Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?"
Jeremiah 16:19
Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
judaizers insisted to become a christian you must first become a jew which meant following the law of moses
-this was a big problem for paul
-he never referred specifically to the law of moses, just to the law
-so now many who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
-this was a big problem for paul
-he never referred specifically to the law of moses, just to the law
-so now many who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
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Elia,
Do I detect a hint of dislike for the gospels of Yeshki, and the words of Paul and his cohorts?
At least you understand this! My newfound Goy family doesn't understand what the law means most of the time. Lol.
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Who is Mosses?
CherubRam
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[FONT="]Jeremiah 7[/FONT][FONT="]
21 This is what the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: “Add your burnt offerings to your other sacrifices, and eat the meat yourselves, 22 for when I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak with them or command them concerning burnt offering and sacrifice. [/FONT]
[FONT="]26 However, they wouldn’t listen to Me or pay attention, but became obstinate; they did more evil than their ancestors. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]Zechariah 11:10
Then I took my staff called Favor and broke it, revoking the covenant I had made with all the nations. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]Jeremiah 31:31
“The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a covenant with the people of Israel (nation) and with the people of Judah (faithful.)[/FONT]
got it
Garbage. Robert, you know better.
A rolling stone gathers no Mosses.
Interplanner
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Best to stick to only the passages of Zech that are explained by Christ and the apostles. I have no idea what 11:10 means.
Jesus didn't destroy the Tanakh, there is a copy in each Bible. You've even quoted from it. Wake up!