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I didn't.

there is no reason to drag "liberals" into this.

It is best to stick to the factual scientific question here. Though I do understand the drive to connect ridiculous ideas with groups you dislike, it is really inappropriate. This is not a place for political mudslinging.

OK. I watched it. He should take a class in physics. There is a pesky thing called an equilibrium, which he pretends to understand- but doesn't. Calling gravity "magic" doesn't make it go away. It's real, and it is why we don't "fall off". (Why we don't fall off a flat earth is a complete...

If things were the way you describe them, I would expect to see the sun get smaller as the moves from noon to sunset. But I don't see that. I see the sun as the same size, and at sunset I see it disappear gradually. As if it is sinking below something. Your model doesn't explain that at all. If...

here's an idea: explain, in your own words, why the sun sets the way it does.

Somehow, after many hundreds of posts on these threads, our flat earth friends somehow neglected to deal with these simple facts.

I am constantly astounded by the weird identity politics in the USA. Concern for the environment is legitimate. It doesn't automatically imply fascism. Nor is concern for the environment anti-religious.

Why are environmentalist movements an issue for Christianity , or a false doctrine? (do you want to start a separate thread for that? It isn't directly related to this thread). Chair

The same texts that include that anthology of testimony includes claims of a special status or even divinity for Jesus. So within the context of reasonable evidence- does that make those claims likely true? If so- we should accept the claims of Muslims about Mohammed being a prophet, and so on...

Is his point really limited only to flat-earthers?

You misunderstand me. I am not saying the two concepts are related. I am saying that the thinking of the proponents of these ideas is similar.

I am trying to understand DFT. And I realized that his attitude is not unusual- just rather extreme.

How different are Flat-Earthers from Young Earth Creationists? Both groups reject mounds of evidence in order to shore up their beliefs. Both groups think there are conspiracies afoot...

Let's take up a collection to send Dave to a physics class, or at least buy him a book.

Though Dave pretends that he isn't convinced that the world is flat, he is convinced of that. He believes it is Biblical, and he is afraid that his whole belief system will come tumbling down if he admits that the earth is a globe. That is why he must ignore plain facts that would show him...

Edit: regarding slant- at a distance of 110 km, the slant would be 1 degree away from you. Not exactly noticeable. Regarding things sinking below eye level: You have never watched a sunrise or sunset? Dave- you are heavily invested in this nonsense idea, and can't admit you are wrong. You are...

This is nonsense, and you know it. You throw in a pseudo-scientific term "perspective", which doesn't mean what you pretend it means, in order to make your lie look based on some real theory. By the way- from the other side of the bay, when on the ground- I can see the mountain.

I see simple, everyday evidence that the earth is a globe. I live near a bay, on top of a mountain. From my house, I can see a place that is about 30 km away. When I go down to the seashore- I can't even see a location that is only 12 km away. Why? (if you want to know where I live that this...

No. Your ilk just rejects all facts that disprove your theory, and pretend that they are "debating" and "proving". You lie to yourself and others. And you are wasting everybody's time, including your own.