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Apparently not. You use words in a strange way. And no- I am not senile or uneducated. English is my native language. You say things that simply don't mean anything.

Dave, what is the horizon? "where the ground beneath us rises up to our eye level"? " Everything that we cannot see is "beyond" the horizon because it's to far away?" What is it?

Speaking a a non-Christian, I can understand why some Christians would be embarrassed by the co-religionists having such obviously wrong ideas. Be that as it may, I would appreciate a response to my last post about seeing a half-sun.

That isn't what he said, if I am not greatly mistaken.

I've read many of your posts, and your ad hominem attack is out of place. 1. Note that this is a drawing. "Perspective" is a drawing method. You use the term differently . 2. Now you need to explain what it means on a flat earth that the "sun hits the horizon and then go beyond it." What is...

Logical Discussion Logical Discussion Dave, I think you will agree with me that even one clear observation that contradicts what a theory predicts disproves that theory. So, for example, if you point out that on a globe, Chicago should not be visible from across Lake Michigan, yet it is- then...

He didn't say that "everything we see is a refraction". I suggest you read his post again, carefully. Still, considering that what we see (and here I mean everything we see) goes through the lens of our eye, forming an image on our retina, it would be fair to say that "everything we see is a...

Exactly right! And many here, including myself, have presented you with such observations- ones that you yourself can see and test! So, being a logical, honest man, you clearly have come to the conclusion that the earth cannot possibly be flat. So who says this thread was a waste of time? Dave...

Did the Russians claim that in 1969?

one of those faked washed out videos of a sunset? Just go watch a sunset- I've been suggesting that for months.

Here are some dictionary definitions of "perspective": The appearance of viewed objects with regard to their relative position, distance from the viewer, etc. (Merriam Webster) The appearance of viewed objects with regard to their relative position, distance from the viewer, etc. (Oxford...

As a friend of mine pointed out: If the moon landing was fake, the Russians would have let us know. very loudly.

Dave- no answer to this?

1. How can you tell what "eye level" is when you are dangling from a balloon? 2. Have you watched this video? parts of it show a curved earth...

Dave, I think you need to define "perspective". You seem to be using the term in a non-standard way.

There isn't anything to answer, except in your imagination. The sun is where it is, and where it appears to be to us depends on atmospheric factors and the speed of light. So what? The sun still rises and sets. When it does so, you can see part of the sun, while the rest is below the horizon...

dave, I'm not going to watch 3 hours of a video, when I can take 3 seconds and look out my window. If you are talking about a balloon, then you are going to have to explain what "level" means in a non-stationary object. Dave- when you go up on a mountain, can you see further than if you are on...

Curiously enough, this is exactly what we see.

You are correct that that would be another thread. If you like, go ahead and open one. I will not join you there. I've wasted enough time with your form of "discussion" and "argument" here.

You digress, and you are also ignorant of modern physics. Like it or not, Einstein was right.