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Dave lives in am alternate reality, in which science and the history of science are different than in the world the rest of us live in.

Dave, as I said, you are an embarrassment.

Dave, why would a privately funded space enterprise in a different country generate these "false" images? You are intellectually dishonest and an embarrassment to other Christians. In fact, even I, a Jew, finds you embarrassing, because your ridiculous notions make the Hebrew Bible look...

The Israeli Lunar Lander 'Beresheet', privately funded, will be landing on the moon in a few days. It's taken some photos on the way. Check some of these links: https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-spacecraft-Beresheet-takes-first-selfie-in-space-582512...

Please post a link to the Sun Probe commercial you are talking about. I apologize if you have posted it already and I missed it.

You clearly misheard. Go take a look at the NASA site. By the way- a private group in Israel has launched a probe to the Moon. It is expected to land in a few weeks.

This is the part I was most surprised at. I think you misread something.

um, where are they advertising this? Do you have a link?

Flat Earth theory allows ignorant people to feel like they are smarter than than those dumb scientists- or even their idiot next door neighbor. View it as a mental drug. It sure causes hallucinations!

Abortionists! Sure. I thought you wanted the theocracy! So let's extend the theocratic list: Homosexuals Adulterers Abortionists Catholics Cats Did I miss anybody? How about Calvanists? I'm not sure what they are, but they get a lot of negative feedback here, and that's good enough for a...

What has DT have to do with the basic question? And who is Aaron? More importantly: can we go after adulterers too?

Let's see: The basic idea is that the US should be a theocracy with the death penalty for homosexuals. That will put the US in fine company: Afghanistan Iran Yemen Saudi Arabia But there is a difference: Some of these countries are following the True (TM) Religion, while others are following...

In the context of the murders at a Pittsburgh synagogue a few days ago, I am wondering what TOL'ers think about antisemitism in the US. Do you think is is common? Is it different than other types of hate or general xenophobia? I am a little surprised that nobody mentioned this shooting here...

All of this seems to make sense- for a Christian who accepts the Christian Bible. For non-Christians, it has little meaning.

It is ignorance, not stupidity. But it is ignorance without any desire for knowledge.

This one fact is so clear cut, and so easily observed. Yet Dave won't go and watch a sunset. He will watch videos with all sorts of weird photographic effects (but Only those, mind you). He is dishonest. With himself more than anybody else.

You think the Bible says the world is flat, and that is why you stick to the FE idea, and say the global earth is a satanic conspiracy. Yet you also insist that you are seriously considering all the options. That is a lie.

Dave, I will let others do the task of pulling these apart one by one. I will deal with only two of them: 2. Is plain false. That is not the history of our understanding of the globe. 3. Is also plain false. We do not view a flat motionless earth. A simple sunset is an everyday experience that...

It strikes me that this thread should be broken into a number of sub-topics. It will be less confusing to follow. For example: 1. FE and conspiracies 2. FE and motion of the planets and stars 3. FE and how objects appear at a distance 4. FE and sunsets (my personal favorite!) 5. FE and the size...

You are correct, of course. The "argument" is the logical process. The logic can be right, while the premises and conclusion are false. I was afraid that this would confuse our friend Dave, beyond his general confusion.