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This is not a debate. You ignore every point brought in favor of a spherical earth, or claim that the facts are all lies (motivation for lying: unknown). You believe in a flat earth, and pretend that you don't. I've watched some of those flat videos. The narrator always sounds so calm and...

Dave, You have chosen not to see. and chosen not to understand. You don't see that even amateur astronomers see galaxies. You don't see the sun set You don't understand what gravity is. All choices. You are not stupid. You have chosen to be ignorant and blind, in order to protect your core...

Yes, you are right. He is lying to himself more than anything else. I find it hard to accept how far he has gone with this, but facts are facts, and self-deceiving is the word.

I agree that multiple universes is unverifiable. I disagree on multiple galaxies. So: 1. Why do you consider multiple galaxies unbiblical? 2. Galaxies can be observed, both by professional and amateur astronomers. In what way are they "unverifiable"?

They are. You said "multiple galaxies"- is that what you meant?

It seems that this healthy attitude is too complex for many people.

You are confusing multiple galaxies with multiple universes, I think. Or I hope.

I have absolutely no doubt about your integrity.

Dave is intellectually dishonest, and has been wasting a lot of people's time here. He owes everybody an apology. This "discussion" or "debate" has not been either, and has been of no use in fertilizing my roses either. By the way, I find his theology site rather weak.

There is no question, except in your mind and the minds of other post-truthers.

Dave, it is a fact that where glaciers end one sees a wall of ice. It is not a fact that the edge of teh Earth is surrounded by a "wall of ice". You are the one denying reality here.

If anybody watches the video, let me know how it was. This stuff has not been as good for my roses as I had hoped.

So who knows? Maybe beyond this wall of ice the Earth IS a globe... In any case, I am glad that there is a wall of ice, as it prevents the giant monster Tiamat from devouring the flat earth and all its inhabitants.

Yup.

So look again. Not that I think it will make any difference. Your thinking is: 1. The Bible is The Word of God, and thus absolutely true and accurate. 2. The Bible says "flat Earth". 3. Therefore any evidence that the Earth is round is false. No matter how much evidence, how clear the evidence...

Dave, Sometimes you can see that "other side of the moon". I have seen this myself, and if you look at the right time, you can see it as well (I know you do not trust any internet site, unless it matches your beliefs). The blue color of the sky is caused by light scattering in the atmosphere...

Dave- please explain this. In your own words, not a video. Thank you.

The ancient world thought there were 4 "elements". The ancient world thought Zeus and Hera were gods. The ancient world never heard of that poor Jew Jesus. The ancient world did not have the internet and computer that you are using right now. And the Bible is correct: but not in the completely...