kmoney

I did... :chuckle:

Don't worry, I'll probably forget I offered. :chuckle:

Don't you love those crazy coincidences? I do. They happen to me a lot and I always enjoy them.

I haven't been able to make any break stick yet, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. Sooner or later, success is possible. And thanks, that's sweet of you.

Re: work, you can so handle the responsibility and leadership part of it, kmo. Absolutely. But a lot of work is a lot of work, and moving that far away is a big thing. Even though I think you'd love it here, the west coast isn't for everyone, and leaving family and friends behind is a huge consideration.

Although I tend toward the minimal anyway (elegant simplicity? Simple elegance? :chuckle I definitely decorated more when I was happier. There's a clear correlation.

So, your guys should take a run at Suh in the off season and pick up some WR help with the draft. Bam, you're right back in the hunt. Don't let them talk you out of Alex. He just needs help. He's a Dilfer plus and that can win you anything if the rest is solid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMKS6_64E_0

You might enjoy that if you are looking into Revelation.

I'm somewhat familiar with Troels Engberg-Pedersen. I wrote my exam paper in Pauline theology comparing his stoic interpretation of the resurrection body in 1 Cor 15 with the more Platonic dualistic interpretation of Daniel Boyarin. That is a while ago now though, would have to refresh that a bit :chuckle:

The scriptures are generally quite anthropocentric, in the sense that man is viewed as the peak of creation. That is a view that is challenged by evolutionary cosmology as well as the grandeur of the universe(s) I think. However, to think of man as the priest of creation, at least here on earth (one could think of other "rational" creatures other places having a similar role if there are other lifeforms in the universe).

Romans 8 is probably the most important NT passage on that. There are hints of it in the Old Testament as well, passages like Isaiah 55:12 (obviously a metaphor, but there is an "aliveness" of nature in Hebrew thought I think) and Psalm 148.

I know, huh? :chuckle:

It had some funny moments, to be sure. I was definitely usually on Jill's side. I'll have to think up some avatar ideas for you. :think:

I'm always thinking about taking a break. I've been taking breaks (totally sure I'd not be back and coming back anyway - so lame...) for years now, as you know. I suppose if I ever do leave for good, it'll be the one time I don't tell anyone first. As much as I've come to love a lot of people here, it hasn't always been the best thing for me.

I'm glad you're doing okay but understand about how it feels to go back after a vacation. Hmmm... oncoming train, moving... that doesn't sound good.

There have been years I've left up the decorations for the full Twelve Days of Christmas, but not this year. They came down pretty quickly.

I was tempted, but I exerted my not-inconsiderable self control.

And yes, I did - I like it. I don't watch much TV at all any more, but I watched enough of those back in the day, raising boys and all. What made you think of it?

Doing okay, thanks for asking. Not enjoying being here too much these days.

How's yourself?

lain: Can't win 'em all, I guess.

I saw this on Sela's page. I knew that, but didn't have the heart to tell you at the time because you were enjoying yourself in the other conversation. :chuckle:

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I agree with that view in soteriology, it is quite Eastern Orthodox. What I like about is that it understands the entire life of Christ as the salvific act, the cross is the culmination of the event, not the only part of it.

The issue for theology today, at least in my opinion, is to formulate this idea in a way that takes modern cosmology seriously. I do think that this view of salvation is based on, accidentally or not, on a view of the world where mankind is at the center of creation. The question becomes how we understand this claim in a cosmology where mankind is slightly de-centralized. I think the conception of salvation must encompass all of creation, and there is resources for that way of thinking in the scriptures as well.

I quite like Leonard Cohen, especially two of his earlier albums: Songs of Leonard Cohen and New Skin for the Old Ceremony.

Lutherans do affirm real presence in the Eucharist. Lutherans reject transsubtantiation as an explanation of that mystery, they refer to it as a sacramental union.

I think what Bonhoeffer is getting at is that Christianity is not primarily about hearing a teaching and following that. Christianity is a form of mystical participation, a union of man with God. I believe he talks about the incarnation in the sense of God the son taking on human nature, and that is our salvation (God uniting himself with us, rather than we trying to reach God so to speak). It could be read as a warning against the Christian without community and sacraments (for Bonhoeffer, there are only 2 of them, baptism and the eucharist). It is participation in this community and the sacraments that marks one as a Christian and a member of the body of Christ through participation in the spirit, not a mere adherence to teachings. I would have to have another glance at that chapter though.

What kind of board games do you like to play?

I do not have any big plans, I usually do not make a big deal out of new years eve. I do have some good beers to choose from and some decent selection of cigars though, so might dip into those as a small celebration :chuckle:

Revelation is quite complex. If Bauckham is correct, and I think he has a lot of good arguments for it, Revelation is a literary masterpiece. There are no coincidences in the text, it is extremely rich in symbolism and allusions to other texts (which then reinforce the meaning).

I haven't followed the thread closely but I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.
Doing all right thanks. No big plans. How about you?

That is quite interesting. Would like to read that essay, it is a topic that I am quite interested in. I think it is wise to at least partially understand the talk of the parousia in light of Jewish prophecy. There is also the tension between the kingdom of as coming and already being among us, clarifying those would also be central to talking about the second coming and what it means.

The Theology of the Book of Revelation is a good choice. There is a lot of insight in it. Climax of Prophecy is quite interesting, but it is very detailed and technical, the one you bought is a better read unless you are doing an in-depth academic study of Revelation.

I'm good. Visited my brother and his family the other day and yesterday my father came for a visit. You?

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H&G got new jobs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMm4LMF16SY

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I'm skeptical of neuroscientists (or reporters reporting on it, which is more often the case) claiming to have shown such things. Primarily because the scientific data is not nearly as clear as is often claimed by magazines and newspapers reporting on it, secondly because it still seems to have non-scientific assumptions built into it, as in the nature of causality. It is my understanding that the Libet experiment has been criticized by quite a lot of people, the reason you list being one of them.

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That book looks quite interesting.

Which Bauckham books did you order?

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Wish you could have seen Jack's "happy dance". We might have gone a little overboard. :chuckle: But this was his first real Christmas of note and he spent the day with Hungry Hippos and Wii Star Wars, duplo Batman sets and various action figures with absurd articulation (I'd have killed for them as a kid), strange Hulk and Spiderman figures that operate like independent rock'em sock'em robots, Hot Wheels a Millennium Falcon he's currently flying around the house with. A very good day and counting. Hope yours was as entertaining. :cheers:

Take a look at this...thread, the first three posts giving insight into a continuing deterioration of sorts. Hard to know how to read it: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106638