Good question.
Well, in that case its the people who are screwy, not the aliens.
Wiki Leaks, Catholics and Aliens
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glassjester
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Right.
They're breaking the first commandment. People will go on worshiping false gods regardless of the existence of alien life.
The golden calf was made right here on Earth.
glassjester
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Would the existence of an intelligent alien species have any effect on your Christian faith?
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Yes...it is impossible that intelligent moral beings exist elsewhere in the universe.
I'm not sure if you agreed, but scripture tells us that "all creation groans" because of the sin of Adam. Aliens thus would be unjustly subject to the consequences of mans sin (pain, suffering, death)... And, they would be sentenced to a Christless eternity, since Christ's atoning death was for the descendants of Adam. Christ did not go to other planets to die for alien worlds... He "died ONCE for all" Rom.6:10, Heb. 9:26, 1Pet.3:18
glassjester
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Are angels part of creation?
Very good question.
Been thinking about it.
Aliens would not be descendants of Adam and Eve and all of God's communication has been with humans.
glassjester
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Angels are intelligent, moral beings. God created them. Some are unfallen. Some are fallen, and will not be redeemed. It is possible for such a being to exist.
There are intelligent, moral beings besides humans. This we know. This, Scripture confirms.
Can there not be any others?
glassjester
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So I do not see how the existence or nonexistence of alien creatures would have any effect on God's plan for the salvation of Man.
Remember that Scripture tells us there are other intelligent beings created by God, who are not descendants of Adam and Eve, and are not saved by Christ. Namely, angels.
Although angels are spiritual creatures, can we truly say with any certainty that there could be no similar corporeal creatures?
By the way, have you read any of C.S. Lewis' space trilogy - Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra, and That Hideous Strength?
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I think likely they were created during the creation week.
Great question.... and, I don't think I have a great answer.
But.....Romans 8 tells us that all creation groans. In context, the word 'creation' (ktisis) seems to be referring to all creation including nature, and to us who are in bondage to sin. Verse 21 would exclude demons and angels since they will not be liberated and "brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God".
That is possibly the most ignorant statement I have ever seen in this forum. You have no business saying that ANYTHING is impossible with God. You haven't got the slightest clue what God may or may not have done in this infinite universe.
Excellent point. OUR salvation history is from Adam to Jesus and the history of this world. Jesus came to take away the Sin of the World, which is to say the sin of Adam and THIS world. What God may or may not have done throughout the rest of the universe, nobody knows.
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Wow.... There must be a hall of fame for such statements??
We know from Scripture that God can not do anything illogical or against His nature. God can't create a rock so big that He can't lift it. (illogical) God can't be unjust or tell a lie. (against His nature).
We know from scripture that God created man, therefore is is NOT against his nature to create beings on worlds.
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Do Demons or devils exist?
glassjester
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Yes.
glorydaz
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Yikes....I had no idea. This goes right along with evolution and even "global warming". Get people to swallow bigger and bigger chunks of nonsense until we believe anything they dish out.
:chuckle:
:AMR:
Did the Lord Jesus die for the aliens?
Wouldn't He have to be related to the aliens in order to die for the aliena?
I read them. While entertaining, they are far away from reality.
I appreciate Lewis' other writings much more, though I disagree with him on much.
glassjester
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If I remember right (in Perelandra), God's plan for the salvation of Man had absolutely nothing to do with the salvation of other alien creatures. Likewise, the existence of nonhuman creatures would have nothing to do with His plan for our salvation.
No more so than the existence of a toad, right here on Earth.